Disorder in Leeds

[OrangeFurever]

Anyone watching the public disorder in Leeds? Bloody disgusting behaviour. Animals. AIBU to wish police had so many more resources to bring consequences to these absolute excuses for humanity?

@SomethingHasTo thanks. Fills me with sadness to see this so close to where I live.

The pictures the DM has chosen to print are interesting.

I think their message is pretty clear. One way or another they are saying it is about Race or possibly Religion.

Ban wood-fired stoves but not Molotov-fired buses?

Also the working poor are going to be worried about being fired if they are out there setting fire to shit and getting filmed doing it. These are people who don’t worry about consequences because it won’t change their lives.

We have to stop excusing people because their life is a bit difficult. Loads of people have difficult lives but they are too busy holding their shit together to set fire to anything. What kind of person lets their kid join a bloody riot. Sorry but I don’t feel sorry for them one bit. Many people work hard and do their best and don’t make their communities worse. I’ll reserve my sympathy for them and anyone trying to protect children.

One who, looking at the video, clearly couldn't give a shit that people were filming him and his face was perfectly visible.
This country is becoming a joke.

Police/army could use it as a training exercise

I think that demonstrates you have no idea about the kind of hardship some communities face.

Are they trying to prove that it's somehow Labour voters doing the damage?

Exactly. People saying SS stormed in and snatching the children unexpectedly?
The family could have very well known to them and this incident was the final straw and the children were rightly taken to a safe place.
No one knows but the community was furious.
I hope they are safe now.

Overspill of anger from losing the Euro game

Don't be ridiculous. It's just kicking a ball around. The right team won.

More like 14 years of crap Tories.

Someone's seen an opportunity to clear some rubbish and dumped a sofa on the bonfire

The true unheard are all the poor and deprived people who have to live among criminals and rioters. They get kicked about by the rich and the feral, but nobody ever pays attention to them.

The people doing it will be largely already known to the police. Their photo in the media will boost their social standing amongst their friends.

I think that demonstrates you have no idea about the kind of hardship some communities face.

I'm an immigrant from a country where a sizeable proportion of people live in genuine poverty, and they don't carry on like this.

i think you’ve made some assumptions there.

Don’t any of them have Netflix?

This isn't a training exercise, it's the real thing.

And I doubt very much the police would need to call for reinforcements if it is small(ish) pockets of disorder, nasty though it looks.

As an aside, riots seem more common in summer when it's hot.

So your statement about "owever, I have been around long enough to know that there has always been poor people in poor areas but it didn't make them riot! Also, it's funny how they are often "not born here", not saying always but the majority in the photos were not English and obviously not integrated into the areas where they live."

is at odds with what you just said

You can't tell who is an English national from a picture, can you?

No- they are showing black, asian and middle-eastern people on the whole and the ones involved in the actions are young and male, lots of encouragement in foreign languages being screamed and shouted- don't know what- and women standing around in the midst of it but mainly taking photos and some smiling/laughing.

2nd/3rd gen immigrant here, grew up with not much money and yup this would not have been acceptable.

This is the last one I saw

www.facebook.com/share/v/zi9NNpfMv2jUBMgH/?mibextid=WC7FNe

Assumptions.

I grew up in what would now be termed poverty (it wasn’t). At no point was rioting, torching a bus, or attacking the police on the agenda.

It's not only the poverty though. It's the drugs, the lack of access to decent education and healthcare, (often justified) distrust of authority, lack of support for those who want to make life better for the communities, the racial tensions that have been stirred up by government over the last decade ....

I grew up in a very poor area. I avoided them, but I had neighbours who would have done this. They were not just poor. They were chaotic families with lots of problems. And they can feel they have nothing to lose.