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He doesn’t think he should contribute to the household

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Onceuponacookie · 18/07/2024 20:24

My boyfriend and his young child (once a week in term time and more in the holidays) have moved in with me and my two teenage children. Before he moved in, he said he would contribute towards the bills once he moved.

He hasn’t yet volunteered anything and it’s been a 6 weeks. He has bought a little bit of food for himself, but that’s it.

It’s an unusual situation in that we live in my old marital home and my ex husband pays the mortgage as part of our agreement until the children are 18. Obviously the bills and food and everything that goes with running a house are all still mine to pay. I work full time around the children but I also receive child maintenance that is generous and overall we have a comfortable life.

I asked BF what he wanted to do about the bills situation last night as he is now settled in. He laughed and said he wasn’t going to pay for me and my children as their dad pays maintenance for them and the mortgage. He then said he doesn’t really add to my bills anyway. He uses a little hot water and the appliances etc. he feel he should just contribute to some food for him as he doesn’t often eat with us.

Obviously since he has moved in he doesn’t have any rent or bills or household expenses or insurances that he previously had when he lived in his own place. He’s saving a fortune and my expenses have increased.

It feels to me like he has moved in for a free ride and to save some cash really!!

He doesn’t help around the house at all and he used to take me out maybe once every one or two weeks but that hasn’t happened since he moved in. He’s quite critical of any mess the children or I make and expects a very clean house but doesn’t do anything to contribute.

He says if we had moved in with him to his house he wouldn’t have expected me to pay for anything!

He talks about the future of when my kids are 18 and we move on from our home that we will split the bills 50/50 then.

Am I being unreasonably to expect him to contribute to where he lives and to our blended family despite my unusual situation?

OP posts:
bonzaitree · 19/07/2024 10:55

Actually he’s made it pretty simple OP. Simple but not easy.

Get him out with some male relatives help. Make sure your kids are out when this happens. He has no right to notice. He packs a bag you change the locks the same day. He has a month to pick up his stuff otherwise it goes in the bin. Get a ring doorbell and other security cameras for your own protection. Get your car swept for trackers / mobile phone if you think he is tech savvy. Block him on everything.

If you feel threatened or harassed at any point report to the police. For example extreme anger, breaking things, showing up unannounced, sending nasty messages.

Sorry this has happened! At least you found out he was a prick after 6 weeks rather than 6 years!

Iamnotalemming · 19/07/2024 10:56

Bravo OP I'm proud of you. A 100% kick ass update.

Do think about getting a ring doorbell if you don't already have one. Will make him think twice about kicking off on the doorstep if he thinks he's being recorded.

Sevenwondersofthewoo · 19/07/2024 10:57

Another thing to do is tell the police non emergency number will do that you've put your ex out and he might become violent at the house. It might not be today but over the next few days

i think he’ll backtrack when he discovers he can’t get in and watch for the lovebombing and then the anger be wary hence reporting to the police

ring door bell would be good too

a last text do not contact me again as I’ll take this as harassment a very clear message for him

Sunnydiary · 19/07/2024 10:59

Please don’t be embarrassed OP. Many of us have fallen prey to this kind of greedy bastard.

You should be really proud of how you are dealing with it.

I agree with PP that safety is now a consideration, so please stay safe.

ImustLearn2Cook · 19/07/2024 10:59

Onceuponacookie · 19/07/2024 10:07

We spoke again last night and he was insistent on his point that he would not be paying anything and that he couldn’t even think how I thought it was fair to ask him to contribute due to my situation. He says he didn’t choose this house either so shouldn’t have to pay for its upkeep. He also got angry that he has to live in my home I once shared with my ex and how did I think that made him feel?! So he expects to live for free whilst I don’t!

He denies ever saying he would contribute, but we had the conversation many times about how he wouldn’t buy x,y,z as he wanted to make sure he could contribute nicely when he moved in.

I have taken the day off work today. My boss is also a friend and knows what happened so she has been very understanding. Probably after seeing what a mess I was yesterday.

I’m packing his things up now. I’ve got BIL coming this afternoon to change the barrel and to help me pack anything that’s left. There are a few small bits of furniture and lamps and pictures that we will put in his van and he will take it all to his parents house in one go. I am going to text him once it’s done to avoid confrontation.

I will stay at my mums tonight so I can be looked after over the weekend and the kids are with their dad tonight. His child doesn’t see him until tomorrow afternoon.

I’ll call the council and get him off the bill and then is there anything I am missing?

I honestly can’t believe this has happened. He was a different person before this. So generous and good with the kids. Tendency to sulk and be a moody at times but overall the positives far outweighed the bad. I just don’t want to keep and mother a grown man who is clearly manipulative and grasping.

That isn’t what I signed up for.

I feel so embarrassed to tell people in real life what’s happened but I suppose with men like this they are clever and if they showed their true colours at the start, no one would put up with it!

You are handling this really well and you have nothing to feel embarrassed by. I hope it all goes well for you. 💖🌈💐🌟

Edingril · 19/07/2024 11:00

Yousaidwhatagain · 19/07/2024 10:49

Lesson learned- don't ship a man in after 5mins. You ignored his moodiness which I'm very certain that you have downplayed. Get him out and set your bar and boundaries much higher. Be thankful that you are in a very lucky situation in all aspects of your life, make better choices for your children.

All of this

NeedthatFridayfeeling · 19/07/2024 11:03

Stay at home OP and have people come stay with you, you don't want him doing anything to the house knowing your not there.
Well done on ending things, stay strong.

MissUltraViolet · 19/07/2024 11:03

Well done OP!

Be gentle with yourself and spend time time reflecting. You say it was a complete 180 he pulled yet you also say he was moody and would sulk a lot. Perhaps he did completely change after moving in or perhaps you just didn't want to see the red flags.

Please be more wary in future, don't move a man into your home, your childrens home, until you are completely sure for all of your sakes and don't overlook behaviour that you should be questioning.

TheFormidableMrsC · 19/07/2024 11:04

Well done OP, what a shitty man he is. I'm glad you've got lots of support and you will never regret getting rid of this cocklodger. Not once!

When things have settled down, it might be an idea to do The Freedom Programme. It definitely helps you to spot the warning signs. Wishing you and your little family peace going forward Flowers

Cherrysoup · 19/07/2024 11:05

Don't be embarrassed, he sucked you right in. He should be the one that's embarrassed.

I don't understand these people who think they can live off others/for free! You are doing the right thing,

Redruby2020 · 19/07/2024 11:06

That's why he moved in dear, he needs to go straight back out, don't do what I and other women have done (although I have never had a man move in with me) and not put your foot down because he might leave you, this is no loss.

I know of another example where by the woman was waiting in temporary accommodation, 6 years passed her bf saw his kids at his relatives house where he lives anyway, but I think it was getting difficult to keep them over night due to space.
He took his ex to court and got over nights etc/holidays.
And his gf then got offered a private two bed flat. So he 'asked' if he could have them there lol, and that's what he does.
Even at a point went off to work in 'his time' to have them in the holidays to work whilst his gf looked after them.
Ok I am sure as they stay there he gives something and they have a child together too, since, but it's a *iss take through and through.
But this is what women do when they would rather have something than nothing.

OpizpuHeuvHiyo · 19/07/2024 11:06

Well done @Onceuponacookie ! You are doing brilliantly.

I am not sure it's a good idea to leave the house empty though. He could call out a locksmith and pretend to have lost his keys. Sensible to have your kids elsewhere for the night in case he makes a scene but is there anyone who could stay there for security?

Fantapops · 19/07/2024 11:07

OP you are a superstar and amazing for throwing him out so quickly. Can I just offer a couple of points of advice?

Have a locksmith change the locks today.

Invite round a male friend/brother/ex to be there when he is due home.

Have your mother stay at yours tonight - don't leave the house empty.

Good luck and be safe. Well done on dealing with this so quickly Flowers

Conniebygaslight · 19/07/2024 11:07

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 19/07/2024 10:11

OP - ypu are amazing. You haven't let this situation drag on for months and months, you've realised he's a total cocklodger and you're tossing him out. You haven't fallen for any of the typical cocklodger tricks - silent treatment, darvo etc,

Good job!!! Don't be embarassed. Anyone can make a mistake. Not everyone fixes it this quickly.

My sentiments exactly. You’ve done yourself proud for acting so quickly. Well done OP.
Be ready for him to try to get you back with promises of being better and getting a place fairly together etc. Don’t fall for it, please stay away from this arse.

BringMeTea · 19/07/2024 11:08

Wow! I hope this IS real because as a pp put it so well, that was a kick-ass update. Flowers

Redruby2020 · 19/07/2024 11:08

Also agreeing that he would contribute once settled in lol, if he had moved in to his own rental for example would the landlord allow him some time to settle in 😂 no way!

MounjaroUser · 19/07/2024 11:10

Can I ask whether it was his idea that he should go on the council tax? I wonder whether he thinks that's a kind of official confirmation that he lives there.

Plus, you lost your 25% discount so you're actually paying for him to live there!

TheMamaYo · 19/07/2024 11:10

Good on you! So many women put up with shit for the sake of it. And the fact that he’s gaslighting you now as well…
Good riddance!
I wish you a VERY happy future.

Sevenwondersofthewoo · 19/07/2024 11:12

Don’t you need proof of living there for a locksmith these days?

countrysidelife2024 · 19/07/2024 11:12

Well done, proud your seeing him for who he is now, I wouldnt want to be anywhere near someone like that

CaveMum · 19/07/2024 11:16

Well done on taking swift and decisive action OP, it can’t have been easy. You are setting a brilliant example for your children.

Keep yourself safe (sounds like you are taking proactive steps). Perhaps phone 101 and ask if they can put a flag on your address, just in case he kicks off?

cordelia16 · 19/07/2024 11:17

Well done, OP. You've been brilliant.

No need to be embarrassed. And you don't have to tell anyone what happened (except those closest to you, who likely already know). Simply say that it just didn't work out in the end. That's it. No one's business.

Mrsredlipstick · 19/07/2024 11:18

You could put a note on the inside of the door or window, 'Dear locksmith.
We have recently changed the locks. Please contact xxxx if you wish to confirm'. I would log a concern on the police website. Then if he unlawfully enters he would be arrested.

Duckyfondant · 19/07/2024 11:18

So sorry you've been played like this, OP. He's the one that should feel embarrassed, not you.

mummytrex · 19/07/2024 11:20

Well done OP. Stand strong. It isn't just about the money he is basically saying you and your ex ought to be paying for him! Deeply deeply unattractive and unbelievably cheeky! It's also his lack of effort / action around the house and making your kids feel uncomfortable.

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