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To NOT support England ???

760 replies

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

OP posts:
Hobbitlover · 15/07/2024 22:31

Can not stand football, I'm a Scottish rugby girly. It's anyone but Ireland in our house🤣, but we always have good banter who ever the opposition are 🏉🏉🏉

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 22:34

Private company, VERY flexible working, allowed to chat shit all day on Mumsnet 🤣

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 22:35

All the other MNetters unemployed then? Is that how it works?? 😂😜

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malificent7 · 15/07/2024 22:36

I'm English and I thought Spain deserved to win...they were better.

Charlie2121 · 15/07/2024 22:38

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 22:20

I’ve explained why. To put it more simply, I find England football fans and English pundits/commentators/media to be over-confident, cocky, entitled and annoying, and that’s when they’re playing poorly, so they’d be insufferable if they won something.

Having just got back home from Berlin I think I’m fairly well qualified to comment on this.

I simply don’t recognise the fan stereotype you describe, at least not among those who actually travel abroad and attend games. If anything the fans are pessimistic and the complete opposite of how you portray them.

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 22:39

😜😜😜

StickyStones · 15/07/2024 22:42

OP, I'm Irish and I find your attitude embarrassing.

You live in England, you're going to have to suck up the wall to wall coverage and the 'it's coming home' schtick.

As an Irish person you've been exposed to British media your whole life and of course it's going to get tedious. If we were constantly exposed to Spanish or French media they'd be no different to the way the English go on. I'm sure of it. Only difference is we don't speak the same language as the Spanish and French and also don't follow their media.

I can just imagine the imperious way you go on in work, you purposely needle your colleague which is very unpleasant. I'm sure they all think you're an eejit.

Liv999 · 15/07/2024 22:49

Is the OP definitely Irish though?

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 22:52

@Liv999 they haven't decided yet!!

IwillNOTplayfastandloosewithpublicfinances · 15/07/2024 22:59

All this is a non issue. It’s just kicking a ball - what a fuss.

Charlie2121 · 15/07/2024 23:04

IwillNOTplayfastandloosewithpublicfinances · 15/07/2024 22:59

All this is a non issue. It’s just kicking a ball - what a fuss.

It’s a lot more than that. I’ve built a huge number of lifelong friendships through football.

Jumpingthruhoops · 15/07/2024 23:14

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 19:49

Read the original post. He confronted me, and I barely spoke. Then HE went off on a rant, that another colleague told him to calm down a bit about.
I didn’t bring it up, He did. He went home because he was feeling unwell - thinking about it there’s a chance he was still drunk rather than hungover, because he’s not usually such a knobhead, although he is one of those blokes who enjoys a bit of ‘banter’ at others expense.

Respectfully, OP, all this 'I'm innocent' rhetoric won't really wash now.
Your subsequent posts have outed you as someone who clearly likes to push buttons.

Support/don't support whichever team you want. Just try not to be a dick about it, eh?🤷‍♀️

Acapulco12 · 15/07/2024 23:24

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I think this is where I stand on this too.

It is of course entirely up to you to decide who you support and it is nobody else’s business.

However, your OP does have a hint of superiority and gleefulness about it. It seems to me as if you’re pleased to be so public and obvious about how much you don’t support England. I think this is neither very respectful nor very nice.

In fact, it reads to me as if you think you have something to prove. It makes me wonder whether you even like football or whether you are just using the well-known English obsession with football to really prove a point that you dislike England.

I know England treated the citizens of its former colonies terribly, and I do not at all support or agree with that. But is it really necessary or effective to use football as a tool to beat people over the head with, to remind them of England’s disgusting behaviour in its former colonies?

Acapulco12 · 15/07/2024 23:57

Acapulco12 · 15/07/2024 23:24

I think this is where I stand on this too.

It is of course entirely up to you to decide who you support and it is nobody else’s business.

However, your OP does have a hint of superiority and gleefulness about it. It seems to me as if you’re pleased to be so public and obvious about how much you don’t support England. I think this is neither very respectful nor very nice.

In fact, it reads to me as if you think you have something to prove. It makes me wonder whether you even like football or whether you are just using the well-known English obsession with football to really prove a point that you dislike England.

I know England treated the citizens of its former colonies terribly, and I do not at all support or agree with that. But is it really necessary or effective to use football as a tool to beat people over the head with, to remind them of England’s disgusting behaviour in its former colonies?

Correction to my above post, as I can’t edit it:

I know BRITAIN treated the citizens of its former colonies terribly, and I do not at all support or agree with that. But is it really necessary or effective to use football as a tool to beat people over the head with, to remind them of BRITAIN’S disgusting behaviour in its former colonies?

lemonmeringueno3 · 16/07/2024 06:40

I guess your desperate need to cleverly tell the world how much you hate England outstrips any desire for your English colleagues to like or respect you. Because only one confronted you about it, but they're all thinking it. Why settle in a country you hate?

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 08:00

IwillNOTplayfastandloosewithpublicfinances · 15/07/2024 22:59

All this is a non issue. It’s just kicking a ball - what a fuss.

it’s millionaires kicking a ball really! Have to say I do prefer grass roots footie to anything professional most of the time.

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x2boys · 16/07/2024 08:04

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 08:00

it’s millionaires kicking a ball really! Have to say I do prefer grass roots footie to anything professional most of the time.

All the footballers in All the teams will be on ridiculously high wage s not just the English team.

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 08:14

x2boys · 16/07/2024 08:04

All the footballers in All the teams will be on ridiculously high wage s not just the English team.

Obviously. Did I say they weren’t somewhere?? FFS.
I play in a Sunday league and coach a kids team, so really like grassroots.

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lolly792 · 16/07/2024 08:18

😂

GinAndBeerIt · 16/07/2024 08:29

I'm not British and my team got knocked out.
My husband is Scottish and his team got knocked out.
We both cheered England on and they got knocked out.
Aibu to be paranoid about cheering future teams on as they seem to get knocked out when I do?

x2boys · 16/07/2024 08:34

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 08:14

Obviously. Did I say they weren’t somewhere?? FFS.
I play in a Sunday league and coach a kids team, so really like grassroots.

No but its only the England you seem to have a problem with 🤔

WithACatLikeTread · 16/07/2024 09:04

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 08:14

Obviously. Did I say they weren’t somewhere?? FFS.
I play in a Sunday league and coach a kids team, so really like grassroots.

I doubt it as it is obvious you know nothing about football.

lolly792 · 16/07/2024 09:13

I'm not British and I'm relieved for the OP that England came 2nd - the OP has worked themself up into a right old flap about that! Imagine if they'd come 1st, the OP would have blown a gasket 😂

Rainbowsponge · 16/07/2024 09:16

x2boys · 16/07/2024 08:34

No but its only the England you seem to have a problem with 🤔

Because they think hating on England makes them a cleverer, more refined, better person who is clearly above the fry up eating, small minded thugs in every way.

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 09:25

GinAndBeerIt · 16/07/2024 08:29

I'm not British and my team got knocked out.
My husband is Scottish and his team got knocked out.
We both cheered England on and they got knocked out.
Aibu to be paranoid about cheering future teams on as they seem to get knocked out when I do?

I don’t think that IS how it works, but who knows!!!!

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