Trump’s human sheilds

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I was a little bit shocked to see them gathering round him putting themselves in the line of fire like that. Would that happen in this country? Never seen anything like it before and not sure how I feel about it.

I pretty much despise any public figure who would find it acceptable that another person's life is worth less than theirs and should take a bullet. What level of conceit is that?

OP I thought the same when I saw them protecting him with their heads out etc If that was my job I’d be in a head to toe bullet proof outfit! Not exposed as that seems suicidal.

I understand it’s the job they signed up and want to do…. However …. In that situation my life is worth no less than the VIP I’m protecting or they must really love the VIP they are protecting , like if it was my family I could do that. So I wouldn’t apply for that job as I think philosophically about it ! And I wouldn’t be going down for Donald Trump - so to summarise I’m doing the job only in a full bullet proof outfit or not at all as my life is worth no less than theirs!

As a PP said, those Secret Service agents aren’t risking their lives to save Trump personally. They’re risking their lives to make democracy possible, and that involves stopping politicians being shot. I think that’s a noble thing to do, and we should be grateful to the people who are willing to do it.

Yes, the Kings guards would literally do the same.

It's what they sign up for -

Not much point in a body guard who pisses their pants at every loud noise then lies on the floor clutching their knees and crying, is there?

Why on earth do you feel so conflicted about it?

Firefighters risk their lives for others, police officers, soldiers and coastguards do, too. So you’ve met dozens of people in your life who do exactly the same thing.

And they’ll all do it for toxic twats just the same as they’ll do it for lovely kind people.

I, because I 'needed' a third book in a charity shop as a bundle, ended up buying Trevor Rees Jones book about being the only survivor if the crash that killed Dodi, Diana and the driver. It was very interesting and has a fair bit about what he had to do to look after Dodi (and later the princess and princes being there too). Dodi sounds like a pita to have looked after tbf.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/0751537233/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=

They tend not to wear them actually, because they are monumentally bulky and difficult to move in. Bodyguards need to be nimble and quick and have full range of movement. Presidential candidates need to look strong and uncowardly.

And bullet proof vests make sod all difference when the gun sights are trained at your skull.

They tend not to wear them actually, because they are monumentally bulky and difficult to move in. Bodyguards need to be nimble and quick and have full range of movement. Presidential candidates need to look strong and uncowardly.

And bullet proof vests make sod all difference when the gun sights are trained at your skull
^THIS

Do you feel the same about police officers, firefighters, soldiers and the coastguard? Do you feel the same about people who jump in rivers to save dogs or drowning people?

They have no idea who they are saving, the chances are the rescuees are just as much of a muppet as Trump or half our politicians, but they do it anyway, because that’s what they sign up for.

They don’t need psychiatric help. They just think a little differently to you, and see honour in something you don’t really value very much. Horses for courses, but I’m sure as hell glad that some people think that way, because I’m a selfish arse and wouldn’t piss on most people of they were on fire. So the world is a better place for having them in it, than for having the likes of you and me.

Ummmmm…care to explain why?

People fight wars to defend democracy or to defend ideals. People have always given their lives for causes that are bigger or more important than themselves. Why is that sad? Each individual is not the most important thing in the world!

As was Donal Trump I imagine, hence the shot to his head.

It might help but it certainly isn't 100% certainty.

There's all sorts of people out there.
And some people would get so much pleasure and pride out of having such an important job.

There's of course a chance that they could be harmed, it could even happen to them on their very first day. But I would say that their risk of death is reduced in other ways due to the lifestyle and job too, safe vehicles, medics nearby, being very well trained in assessing threats etc, being prepared to handle stressful situations,If they were caught up in a random supermarket shooting they'd probably have a better chance than most.

A photographer risked his life just to get the perfect picture. And I would bet he'd love to experience something else equally dangerous/exciting if he could get another amazing shot. So they often put rewards over risk.

Security guards at schools etc over there are at risk every single day and probably don't get much credit or acknowledgement ever unless something happens.

Why is he vile? Under his presidency there was pretty much world peace

It was jarring to see women protection officers putting themselves in harm's way given Trump's attitude to women's bodily autonomy on a personal and national level. Also jarring that he put his close protection at additional risk by delaying to get a good picture.
The focus should have been on quickly obeying his protection officers' advice to get to a place of safety (car) first to allow first responders to treat the injured.

Imagine having to risk your life to protect someone who thinks it is worth less than his shoes and a photo op.

Police officers etc work within safety parameters designed to protect them. Obviously they can be in dangerous situations and can be killed or injured even with procedures in place to try to prevent this.

It is not at all the same as taking a bullet for a politician who has chosen to put themselves in the public eye ( and whatever they claim, top politicians are in it for their own ends, not altruism).

the 20yr old took his dads gun,still stupid but big boy so his loss

It also doesn't mean that they need psychiatric help 😂

And the ones who throw themselves in front of the politician are also working within safety parameters designed to protect them. Doesn't mean they always will, but they have more layers of security than ones who are further out.

I don't see what how you feel about it and to do with anything. That's the job of the US secret service and they know the job requirements before they applied. And yes I would expect the PMs security to do everything to protect and save him same way a soldier will put his life on the line to fight for his or her country.

Not necessarily, they are professionals and their job is to protect whoever they are assigned to. They don't assign secret service agents based on political affiliation.

They will put their lives on the line eg for a serial killer if they assigned to get him to a court safely.

It's their job, no-one is forcing them to do something they don't want to do.

Exactly, it's not like they're conscripted.

I suspect that post is to try to invite comments like echobelly and EsmaCannonball on protecting Trump. People go great lengths to make sure they carry on insulting and vilifying him. It is disgraceful and says more about people commenting like this than anything else.