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Trump’s human sheilds

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Totoe · 14/07/2024 18:38

I was a little bit shocked to see them gathering round him putting themselves in the line of fire like that. Would that happen in this country? Never seen anything like it before and not sure how I feel about it.

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Papergirl1968 · 14/07/2024 21:36

Aww, The Bodyguard. I will always love youuuuuuu ❤️
One of Trump’s female bodyguards, the one who had trouble putting her firearm away, defo seemed to be wearing a white bullet proof vest.
I’m all for equality but I’d want big burly bodyguards, preferably looking like Kevin Costner.
I think the Princess of Wales has a female bodyguard though.

crumpet · 14/07/2024 21:43

Regan’s security were also injured (amongst others) when he was shot.

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RitaIncognita · 14/07/2024 21:54

When President Kennedy was shot, one of Vice-President Johnson's agents pushed him to the floor of the limo and lay on top of him as a human shield. As so many posters have said, that's what they do. That's their job.

BMW6 · 14/07/2024 22:01

That just shows that Trump didn't follow protocol and the training he has had.

Not the SS fault that he didn't. He just seized the opportunity to big himself up in the eyes of the voters.

Brave or craven.........???

hari27 · 14/07/2024 22:01

They have vests as others have said.

The bigger question here is why did it happen?

what on earth were the security doing.

the interview with the bystander is everywhere. He alerted them and none of them cared.

any one of us asked to identify a security issue would have said a roof.

motleymop · 14/07/2024 22:03

Not answering the question, but to say that I thought they looked a bit rubbish - not at all slick and sexy like Kevin Costner 😅
I suppose the reality is nothing like Hollywood!!

MoonlightFarrow · 14/07/2024 22:05

That’s their job - they put themselves in the line of fire. And yes, that would happen in this country.

BMW6 · 14/07/2024 22:05

hari27
Yes, this is the aspect that I'm astounded by.

How was anyone able to get up on a roof within range of readily available weapons???

Makes no sense whatsoever.

ZenNudist · 14/07/2024 22:09

They don't want to die but the very fact they do this deters attackers.

ClaudiaWinklepanda · 14/07/2024 22:10

They definitely wear vests, a former secret service officer was interviewed on the Beeb and he confirmed that.

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/07/2024 22:13

I don't think it is fair to criticise how Trump reacted. It would have been shock and adrenaline not considered actions.

Eastcoastie · 14/07/2024 22:16

Echobelly · 14/07/2024 18:46

Yes, the same would happen here, as has been said, that is their job. But fortunately it has not been tested and of course, very fortunately, we live in a country where it is incredibly difficult to get hold of guns as opposed to a country full of them.

Must suck to know you might have to give up your life for a vile human being like Trump though, so more credit to them!

It has been tested. Princess Anne's bodyguard took a bullet for her. He was wearing a bullet proof vest and survived.

yas33 · 14/07/2024 22:26

My brother is a personal protection officer for one of the senior royals, they do wear vests but they don't use fake arms 😊

AbraAbraCadabra · 14/07/2024 22:28

There are also a million films and tv shows which shows bodyguards in action doing more or less exactly what happened to Trump. How you've never seen this before is very bizarre.

StrawberrySquash · 14/07/2024 22:33

Totoe · 14/07/2024 18:58

I know they exist obviously but I never really thought about it in relation to a bodyguard’s job.
Probably because we don’t have that many guns here.

I think this does make sense. Part of a bodyguard's job is to be aware of threats and hopefully anticipate stuff before it gets to the point it did on Saturday. Or to return fire. To me there is something quite different about the fact that they are also expected to sacrifice their life for their person. That weirds me out, even though I know it's a fact. I think it's to do with it being an explicit admission that we put one life above another.

montysma1 · 14/07/2024 22:35

Who goes through life thinking that a public figures life is of more value than their own?

Why would anybody want that job?
It's not even brave, it's odd.

BMW6 · 14/07/2024 22:48

montysma1 · 14/07/2024 22:35

Who goes through life thinking that a public figures life is of more value than their own?

Why would anybody want that job?
It's not even brave, it's odd.

In the case of a President he/she represents The People. Its not the individual that's important, but their Office.

Same with Royalty. (The King is dead, long live the King). The individual is not important.

Those who choose to be Protection Officers do so out of conviction (hopefully) and patriotism.

Those that go private probably do it for the huge financial rewards. Not the same at all.

You don't get it - that's understandable, but lots DO want to participate.

Zapx · 14/07/2024 22:57

I can recommend the film “The Bodyguard” with Whitney Houston in 😊

montysma1 · 14/07/2024 23:16

BMW6 · 14/07/2024 22:48

In the case of a President he/she represents The People. Its not the individual that's important, but their Office.

Same with Royalty. (The King is dead, long live the King). The individual is not important.

Those who choose to be Protection Officers do so out of conviction (hopefully) and patriotism.

Those that go private probably do it for the huge financial rewards. Not the same at all.

You don't get it - that's understandable, but lots DO want to participate.

People prepared to die for a public figure or an office need psychiatric help.
Literally, "They are worth more than me", my life is worth less than theirs".
Sad .

Waitingfordoggo · 14/07/2024 23:27

montysma1 · 14/07/2024 23:16

People prepared to die for a public figure or an office need psychiatric help.
Literally, "They are worth more than me", my life is worth less than theirs".
Sad .

I do understand your way of thinking and somewhat share your view but then you (and I) could feel the same about the armed forces, no? They see themselves as protecting King and Country (or President and country) in presumably the same way that a bodyguard views their role.

Regalia · 14/07/2024 23:32

montysma1 · 14/07/2024 23:16

People prepared to die for a public figure or an office need psychiatric help.
Literally, "They are worth more than me", my life is worth less than theirs".
Sad .

How would you distinguish this from other not particularly well-remunerated jobs which involve potentially life-threatening situations?

I was at Oxford when Chelsea Clinton was, and her regular security detail looked absolutely terrifying. Young, and clearly supposed to (kind of) blend in as students (only not really), the woman in particular looked as if she could invade a small country bare-handed. Even her French plaited hairdo looked efficiently lethal.

BMW6 · 14/07/2024 23:39

Waitingfordoggo · 14/07/2024 23:27

I do understand your way of thinking and somewhat share your view but then you (and I) could feel the same about the armed forces, no? They see themselves as protecting King and Country (or President and country) in presumably the same way that a bodyguard views their role.

Quite.

It's not measuring one person's life against another's.

MoonlightFarrow · 14/07/2024 23:40

montysma1 · 14/07/2024 22:35

Who goes through life thinking that a public figures life is of more value than their own?

Why would anybody want that job?
It's not even brave, it's odd.

How does it differ from anyone who has a difficult and dangerous job like the police or fire service?

Why are their lives worth less than the people they’re protecting or rescuing? Yes, they’re well trained and more equipped to deal with those situations, but so are secret service agents.

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