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To think that dogs shouldn't be in toilets?

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LittlePearDrop · 13/07/2024 08:28

I'm currently camping.

There's signs on the toilet / shower block door clearly indicating "No Dogs". Not small signs. Very obvious.

Went for a shower first thing this morning and a woman brought a dog into the toilet next to me. It poked its head under the gap and had a sniff. I just ignored it.

Took my daughter an hour later and whilst I'm waiting for her, another woman brings another dog in. This time, thinking maybe she has missed the sign, I said, very politely and calmly "Oh it's no dogs in here".

She immediately became defensive, saying there's no one else to look after him (there's a fence outside she could have tied him to) and that he would "cry" if left outside. Errm, so what? Dogs whine. It's not the end of the world.

AIBU to think that if the signs say "no dogs" then it means "no dogs" and not, "Well ok your dog can come in because it might whine if left alone for a minute"?

OP posts:
WiddlinDiddlin · 16/07/2024 05:09

FinalCeleryScheme · 16/07/2024 01:26

Yeah. The harping on by dog owners about theft of their dogs (lol at roving gangs of mutt robbers - it’s like childish horror stories of the bogeyman) never answers why their dogs can’t be stolen from outside the cubicle.

So they must actually take them in. They shower and use the toilet with their dogs with them! That’s not just foul, it’s really fucking weird.

Emptying your bowels while lovingly stroking your dog? 🤮 🤮

Of course they take the dog IN the cubicle with them...

Half of them probably go to the toilet with the dog at home anyway - dogs love to follow their humans to the toilet because it is written in dog lore, that there exists a portal to another dimension and without supervision, humans may vanish down the swirly bowl...

Most folk I know (myself included) tend not to stroke the dog whilst on the lav... the dog just takes up a sort of sentry position, gazing at the door or the open doorway if you're that way inclined, ready to ward off infidels and sniper attacks.

Sadly (yes, really I am mildly disappointed by this) my dogs now believe I am capable of going to the loo by myself and can't be bothered to follow me up there. If infidels and snipers attack, I am stuffed.

newnamethanks · 16/07/2024 06:57

I tied my dog up outside a local shop and came out minutes later to find a deranged stranger with his hands round my dogs throat, squeezing hard. He was crouched down doing this and I kicked him hard to make him let go. He fell to one side, I grabbed dog and left. Guy hobbled off in the other direction without saying a word. I couldn't leave my current dog outside anywhere, he'd scream and its utterly ear piercingly unbearable.-

Greenlittecat · 16/07/2024 08:24

Malahide · 16/07/2024 01:37

What you’re describing is the phenomenon of overly sexualised human bodies. Thankfully animals do not think in this way, nor do they care about what otherwise natural ‘bits’ they see. If you really think this is an issue then that’s a problem with your own perspective on life.

No one but you is describing sexualising animals 🤢

VanillaImpulse · 16/07/2024 09:56

I'm just wondering where the dog goes when these single people travelling have a shower. They aren't exactly big so won't the dog get soaking wet? Then if they are outside the cubicle they could get stolen/bite people there. Genuine question.

WiddlinDiddlin · 16/07/2024 13:15

VanillaImpulse · 16/07/2024 09:56

I'm just wondering where the dog goes when these single people travelling have a shower. They aren't exactly big so won't the dog get soaking wet? Then if they are outside the cubicle they could get stolen/bite people there. Genuine question.

Probably just ... don't have a shower. Just use wet-wipes and more deodorant, strip wash in their tent etc.

I doubt many single people are going away for more than a weekend, with a dog and no one else to help, and no bowl to wash in, flannel, water carrier etc.

Malahide · 16/07/2024 13:19

Greenlittecat · 16/07/2024 08:24

No one but you is describing sexualising animals 🤢

I’m afraid if that is what you perceive from a comment describing the complete opposite then that is your own comprehension problem

Menopausemadness1 · 16/07/2024 14:05

Sethera · 13/07/2024 09:07

When we used to camp in a tent, we took our dog's crate with us (we'd crate trained him as a pup, and as an adult he still liked to sleep in the crate so we just left it there with the door permanently open). We closed the crate door at night so he wouldn't get out for a wander while we were sleeping, and put him in there for a short period if we needed to leave him alone for any other reason. He was fine with it. I wouldn't take a dog into public showers at a campsite because dogs are too messy.

For god sake don’t mention a crate! The doggie police will be after you! But same.. my doggies love their homes .. and we don’t even need to lock them.. it’s his safe space and bedroom! And the same for our other two.

parkrun500club · 16/07/2024 15:05

Why are these highly allergic dog phobic people at dog friendly campsites

Well this particular case is a camp site but what if I just want to go for a walk along the beach and then pop into the loo, and I can do neither because of off-lead dogs?

The reason people are scared of dogs is because there are too many out of control ones. If no dog ever bothered people, they wouldn't be scared of them.

Very few places are off limits to dogs now.

Calliopespa · 16/07/2024 15:26

Greenlittecat · 16/07/2024 08:24

No one but you is describing sexualising animals 🤢

Well someone above said the dog wasn’t trying to look at op’s minge - which was frankly the high point of an otherwise niggling, fractious, miserable, unpleasant and totally unnecessary thread.

HighHeelsOnCobblestones · 16/07/2024 15:38

parkrun500club · 16/07/2024 15:05

Why are these highly allergic dog phobic people at dog friendly campsites

Well this particular case is a camp site but what if I just want to go for a walk along the beach and then pop into the loo, and I can do neither because of off-lead dogs?

The reason people are scared of dogs is because there are too many out of control ones. If no dog ever bothered people, they wouldn't be scared of them.

Very few places are off limits to dogs now.

Indeed. By the logic of some on here, my allergic DS shouldn’t even be walking to school. After all, the street is dog friendly too. He’s only at risk if dogs aren’t being controlled or are being taken into places they’re not allowed.

Dog friendly doesn’t mean it’s a free for all. I took my whole family, including my dog allergic son, to a dog friendly outdoor event a few weeks ago. Shocking! Except the organisers had the rule that all dogs must be kept on leads at all times. Much like most dog friendly campsites. All the dog owners followed the rule and all the dog owners, non-dog owners, dog allergic (who knows, maybe even some dog phobic who were reassured that dogs would be on leads) had a great time. Many groups of people were easily accommodated.

CyprusCypress · 16/07/2024 16:29

Valeriesimpleton · 14/07/2024 10:30

Camping and campers are joyless. This proves it. I hope she reads this, it would possibly be the only way of anyone laughing while sleeping in a tent sharing a toilet with a load of other joyless tightwads.

Do you genuinely find this funny? I wish I was so easily amused. I envy those who laugh at this banal stuff.

CyprusCypress · 16/07/2024 16:38

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 15:45

How do you do that when camping or generally on holiday with the dog? Camp for a few hours at a time then pop home for the dog?

Maybe we should invent a dog that, with a remote control, can be switched off, disappeared out of existance in inconvenient moments, and then switch back on again when thats ok.

Or a time machine so we can just rewind time until whatever series of events that caused us to need to take a dog where a dog shouldn't be, hasn't yet happened. That sounds super practical, I await the invention of either with bated breath!

Having seen the vile attitudes to dogs on this thread there is absolutely no fucking way I'd leave mine unsupervised anywhere the general public could get to them. They're clearly not safe unless by my side or inside my house.

Having seen the vile attitudes to dogs on this thread there is absolutely no fucking way I'd leave mine unsupervised

What makes you think people who do not want dogs in toilets and restaurants want to go anywhere near your dog? Never mind touch, harm or steal it?

I do wonder how people like you coped when dogs weren’t allowed everywhere? People seemed to have more manners then. Or they somehow coped without their dogs glued to them.

CyprusCypress · 16/07/2024 16:41

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 16:12

Yes, seriously. To dog owners our dogs ARE family members. The insurance payout for my dog who dropped dead does not bring her back! Bonkers, absolutely fucking bonkers to suggest it would.

Hence my rather flippant response really.

I actually have zero skin in this game as I don't go camping, and when I did go out and about, it was with an assistance dog. Who can go anywhere at all (well, not an operating theatre and a tiny handful of other sterile environments)... no matter how allergic or phobic someone else might be.

In that case, surely the price of someone’s dog is irrelevant. Posters quoting how much they spent on their dog and thus wouldn’t leave it unattended, clearly do care about their lost financial investment.

CyprusCypress · 16/07/2024 16:42

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 14/07/2024 16:20

I’m not talking about following the rules as you well know. I’m talking about the dog haters who don’t care if something happens to them, the idiots who think dog owners are ‘inadequate’ (hello pot, meet kettle) and the general haters who converge on a thread whenever they hear the dog klaxon.

Do you expect people who dislike dogs in indoor public spaces, not to contribute to a thread about dogs in toilets? What a strange little comment about a klaxon.

Sweetenuf2 · 16/07/2024 17:06

I can’t believe this is even a discussion. Op is correct - it obviously is wrong because it’s against the campsite policy. End of story.

If dog owners have an issue with campsite “no dogs in toilet” policy they should take that up with the owners or find another one! It’s so simple. You don’t just run all over the rules.

I don’t like seeing dogs in cafes but I can’t object or just march them out if it’s in a dog friendly cafe. I just have to march myself out - and I do! So why should dog owners expect to take advantage of dog friendly policies but ignore restrictions on dogs?

It’s outrageous and incredibly selfish. The fact that some are even trying to justify it is crazy and shows where we are at in society.

CyprusCypress · 16/07/2024 17:24

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 22:05

Dogs aren't more important than humans.
Respect signs.

The problem now is that there is a large contingent of people who think dogs are more important than humans. They truly do. So there is no debate to be had; they are too far gone!

I abhor cruelty to animals. But they are not more important than people.

Moglet4 · 16/07/2024 17:28

Unfortunately, a lot of dog owners are inordinately selfish (as evidenced by some of the posters on this thread declaring they don’t give a damn what anyone else thinks, they’ll just do what they like). If there is an explicit sign saying No Dogs then there should be no dogs. It’s the same on the beach. There are literally tens of miles of unbroken sand where dogs are allowed but the one section where dogs are not allowed always has them on it. Pure selfishness.

CyprusCypress · 16/07/2024 17:28

Dynamitepussycat · 14/07/2024 22:43

This. I am a dog owner but since lock down the dog situation is just nuts. People humanising them and not really knowing the first thing about them. The dog will be fine tied up outside a toilet block for a couple minutes. Not everyone wants wants other peoples stinky dogs invading their space!

these threads are actually quite good because it reminds me that there are decent dog owners like you around. Thank you.

CyprusCypress · 16/07/2024 17:29

AlwaysGinPlease · 14/07/2024 22:48

Go in a different type of holiday then. Boring bloody anti dog threads 😴

I think you post this on every dog thread.

Why not ignore them if they make you so bored and upset?!

LilBowWow · 16/07/2024 17:35

You’re all banging on about how important humans are yet you’d try and deny a woman a chance to go to the loo. Makes no sense to me. Piss yourself lady, the sign says no dogs.

CyprusCypress · 16/07/2024 17:37

Flossflower · 15/07/2024 17:21

I do feel some sympathy towards you and you have learned from your mistake but in my park most of the areas are dog areas. You should be free to set up a picnic where you want it. My picnics contain things that could be lethal to a dog.

I wouldn’t put it past some dog-owners to sue others if their dog snaffled something dangerous from a picnic!

CyprusCypress · 16/07/2024 17:39

Calliopespa · 16/07/2024 15:26

Well someone above said the dog wasn’t trying to look at op’s minge - which was frankly the high point of an otherwise niggling, fractious, miserable, unpleasant and totally unnecessary thread.

Edited

Yet you have happily engaged throughout!

CyprusCypress · 16/07/2024 17:41

LilBowWow · 16/07/2024 17:35

You’re all banging on about how important humans are yet you’d try and deny a woman a chance to go to the loo. Makes no sense to me. Piss yourself lady, the sign says no dogs.

What are you on about?

LilBowWow · 16/07/2024 17:42

CyprusCypress · 16/07/2024 17:41

What are you on about?

🤣

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 16/07/2024 17:48

CyprusCypress · 16/07/2024 16:41

In that case, surely the price of someone’s dog is irrelevant. Posters quoting how much they spent on their dog and thus wouldn’t leave it unattended, clearly do care about their lost financial investment.

Perhaps they were making the point that the dog is valuable and therefore more attractive to thieves?