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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask if you free birthed?

218 replies

36weeks4days · 12/07/2024 21:47

I am 36 weeks pregnant and planning on a hospital birth I am hoping for as natural as possible with as little intervention as possible

my friend was discussing her labour plans she is considering a free birth. She birthed at home last time.

AIBU to ask if you have ever free birthed? Why you chose that and how it went?

I don't know anybody IRL who has had one, she is due after I've had my son so won't be able to use her experience but my mind is now wondering whether it's something to explore.

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PixelatedLunchbox · 12/07/2024 22:15

I would have died if I had -- healthy, 26, but for first AND second births, my uterus would not contract properly (without a huge shot of oxytocin) to close off the hemorrhaging uterine blood vessels. I'm a total hippie at heart, but things can and do go unexpectedly wrong during birth. It just isn't worth it in my opinion.

3kids3dogs · 12/07/2024 22:15

Not a chance.

DC2 was a textbook quick easy birth. I thought DC2 would be easier. Well I was wrong, stuck baby, red button and a whole team resuscitating her.

I was so glad for the experience of everyone on the team. I honestly think we would have died.

MidnightPatrol · 12/07/2024 22:18

So I think free birthing is incredibly dangerous. I would not do it.

BUT I actually found myself having some empathy with women who do it after my first birth. The whole experience was such a nightmare - the hospital an awful environment, the midwives rude and uncaring, the treatment ‘pathway’ I ended up on led to lots of unpleasant interventions which may have been avoidable.

I can see how pregnant women feel they don’t trust the medical support which is supposed to help them.

NamingConundrum · 12/07/2024 22:21

Childbirth has been one of the most dangerous things for a woman and child since the dawn of time.

Intentionally freebirthing is like playing russian roulette.
Me and my baby would have died had I tried to freebirth. He got stuck.
My friend would have died. Textbook labour and delivery then massive haemorrhage. Over 2L of blood lost.
Another friends placenta wouldn't come off and haemorrhaged.
Another had EMCS after babies heart rate suddenly dropped off a cliff. Her baby would have died.

I can hand on heart say that out of my circle of friends, especially for first births, in more than 50% of cases mum, baby or both wouldn't have survived a freebirth.

Babyshadows · 12/07/2024 22:21

I considered it, had a unique situation which meant I didn’t have a good or trusting relationship with the medical professionals/ midwives. I didn’t feel like they were listening or being truthful and felt coerced into some aspects of care. I genuinely at times felt terrified to let these people assist me to birth because I just couldn’t trust them.

However I researched a lot and decided that I wouldn’t be comfortable working through a stuck baby, a large blood loss, neonatal rescue ect and so ended up having a very hands off homebirth which was perfect. I think the power shifts at home and it’s a much more respectful situation!

Cinocino · 12/07/2024 22:22

Buddysbunda · 12/07/2024 22:01

This was in the news in Ireland recently, it's not a smart move.

https://www.thejournal.ie/maternal-deaths-ireland-2-6421898-Jun2024/

Wow to pursue a free birth after two previous sections is wild and utter stupidity! Those poor 3 young children left without a mother.

Elphamouche · 12/07/2024 22:23

Absolutely not. Had two haemorrhages after I had my DD. They weren’t expecting that to be a risk - thank god I was consultant led.

Noseybookworm · 12/07/2024 22:24

Please don't consider this. I had two very straightforward hospital births and opted for a home birth with my third. Had a massive haemorrhage after the birth and blood pressure dropped to 50/40 had to be blue lighted to hospital. If my fantastic midwife wasn't there, I could have died. She was so calm but told me afterwards she wasn't calm inside and thought she was going to have to resuscitate me after I passed out. Needless to say babies 4 & 5 were hospital births!

Floorbard · 12/07/2024 22:25

I think it’s awful. I used to follow someone on instagram, until she proudly announced she’d free birthed twins without having any medical appointments during pregnancy. She got lucky,
and her babies got lucky. Stupid and irresponsible.

Tmpnmc86 · 12/07/2024 22:25

First birth an absolute hospital nightmare and he'd have popped out no bother and with far less stress and trauma had I stayed home.

Babies 2 and 3 born at home with indie midwives.

I realised that because of the trauma of 1, my judgment on whether to go to hospital would have been off whereas I trusted my mw completely should she have felt a transfer was necessary - and I'd have felt safer with her in my corner than without her should hospital have become necessary.

Theothername · 12/07/2024 22:27

There’s some weird gaslighting and fantasising in pregnancy narratives. Reading about hypnobirthing and home birthing, you’d easily get the impression that it’s a trippy, blissful, ecstasy kind of experience, and the pain is proportional to the level of medicalisation you allow. You’re also advised not to listen to “horror stories” and to protect yourself from “negativity” so it’s both an echo chamber, but also undermines other stories and experiences.

There’s a mishmash of protocols and statistics from different countries but when you dig in you realise that some of the interventions you’re warned about haven’t been practiced for decades or aren’t used in this part of the world. But the effect is to create a distrust of health care professionals.

We like to think we’re creatures of logic, and reason but most human decision making is based on consensus not logic. If everyone around us agrees, we probably will too. The internet can be dangerous because it puts us in echo chambers and creates the illusion of a majority consensus.

I was very drawn to the idea. I tend to want to withdraw and be alone when I’m in pain. I’m introverted. I get overwhelmed. I found the hospital birth experience very difficult to process after my first pregnancy,

Now I understand this from a perspective of neurodivergence, and sensory processing issues. I didn’t have any language to explain my needs and there really wasn’t a paradigm where I would have been taken seriously anyway.

I had a home birth, from the community midwives unit of the leading maternity hospital - so all the safety protocols were assessed and observed. I wasn’t willing to take risks with baby but if I’d only had to consider myself I’d have preferred to be entirely alone. And if I hadn’t been the type of person to over research every option and ask a million questions I might have believed some of the dangerous emotive nonsense.

However, I also think that the medical community have a long way to go in the care of neurodivergent people. But hopefully increased awareness is making a difference. But health care trauma is real and those harms need to be addressed and minimised.

Sunnysundayicecream · 12/07/2024 22:27

I had my second so fast I didn't have time to get to hospital, the midwife ran through the door just as he arrived. Luckily everything was OK, but I went into shock after, as I had lost that much blood and did need medical attention. I would say my husband was actually effected most by it and suffered with the trauma of it afterwards.

36weeks4days · 12/07/2024 22:28

In fairness to my friend as are at very different points this is her fifth child whereas my son is my first. My friend of course has a lot more knowledge and experience.

My plan of an hospital birth is very much as that's the 'done thing' (normally anyway) and I would like to think much safer.

Without wanting to be too outting my friend has put the nerve into me telling me about some local hospitals and their 'issues' and to be honest made the thought of an home birth and especially a free birth sound really quite lovely.

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FrodisCapering · 12/07/2024 22:28

I'd be dead. My son would be dead.
Very happy to have both my children in hospital with a Dr on hand

cloudy477654 · 12/07/2024 22:29

Please don't consider this, giving birth was the top killer of young women before medical care and c-sections were available to all. I was "low risk" with my first...until my labour failed to progress because my baby's head was in the wrong position, without medical care at best I would have had a horrific tear at worst my baby and possibly me would have died. Home birth with midwives present ok in specific circumstances- free birth is dangerous

bakewellbride · 12/07/2024 22:29

You STILL think free birth sounds 'quite lovely' after reading everything on this thread? 😳

JollyGreenSnake · 12/07/2024 22:30

Please don't.

Would you want to live without electricity or safe water just because that's what people had to do for thousands of years?

Crispyturtle · 12/07/2024 22:30

freebirthing is the most perculiar western arrogance, the idea that this amazing healthcare we all have access to, is somehow plotting to do us harm. Don’t get me wrong, it’s far from perfect, but I cannot bear people who reject it on the basis of absolute bollocks ‘research’ on google when millions of people around the world would love to have access to a half of what we have.

If you would be happy to live the rest of life knowing your baby died when it could have survived because of the choices YOU made, crack on.

Cinocino · 12/07/2024 22:32

a free birth sound really quite lovely

Darwinism in action I guess.

SareBear87 · 12/07/2024 22:32

YABU to ask but you'd be damm stupid to go ahead and do.
Both me and my DD would be dead if we didn't have help. I had a healthy uncomplicated pregnancy, labour started naturally and baby was a perfect weight but birth would have killed us both.
Just don't.

RenaissanceBaby · 12/07/2024 22:32

“No, because I would value the life of my baby more than the need to have some wanky free birth.”

This. In spades.

Do those deliberately choosing a free birth do it for the benefit of the baby? I don’t bloody think so. Selfish beyond belief.

36weeks4days · 12/07/2024 22:32

bakewellbride · 12/07/2024 22:29

You STILL think free birth sounds 'quite lovely' after reading everything on this thread? 😳

No I am trying to explain why my mind was wondering in the first place.

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Motherland2624 · 12/07/2024 22:33

36weeks4days · 12/07/2024 22:28

In fairness to my friend as are at very different points this is her fifth child whereas my son is my first. My friend of course has a lot more knowledge and experience.

My plan of an hospital birth is very much as that's the 'done thing' (normally anyway) and I would like to think much safer.

Without wanting to be too outting my friend has put the nerve into me telling me about some local hospitals and their 'issues' and to be honest made the thought of an home birth and especially a free birth sound really quite lovely.

It’s definitely not lovely I did it by accident with my 4th I was in shock for days

SareBear87 · 12/07/2024 22:33

Sorry should have read YANBU to ask!

ByLilacMember · 12/07/2024 22:33

I had a dream pregnancy, all prepped for the birth pool. I'd packed my TENS machine and aromatherapy oils. Birth went completely sideways and we're both lucky to be here, I needed all the help I could get. The people that helped me were incredible