Late School Start Monday

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Primary School has announced that pupils do not have to be in school on Monday until 10am on Monday due to the football. (However it is open from normal time)

DH believes this is not good, a d setting a bad example

I thinkbthe school is being pragmatic and trying to keep their Stats up... because children will be up late so will be tired and grumpy on Monday morning... so more kate marks and more absences.

However... there has been several occasions where there have been school trips getting back at 10pm... and they were expected in at normal time the next day.

So... is the school being fair here?

(We aren't football fans, but we know people are excited!)

YABU... its a big event, the late start is justified
YANBU... children should be in school at normal time

Yep they are falling over them selves on the I hate football thread ,to win the I hate football the most title happens every time there's a tournament .

We are into week 3 of the school holidays so not affected. But I think its a lovely idea.

My workplace have just announced that everyone is invited to have a late start on Monday morning.

Its a nice thing to do, though it would be nice if schools would be more flexible in other special situations too, of course. But you don't gain other nice things by taking away this nice thing, so don't understand why anyone would complain about it.
I remember a world cup when I was in secondary school and there was an England match during the school day - the school put it on in the assembly hall for anyone who wanted to watch to watch, so we'd still come into school. That was a really nice memory.
Last winter olympics the events were on during the school day and my DD's teacher let them watch a lot of them in class, another nice memory for the children though I suspect it was less for the children's benefit and more for the their teacher

I'm just glad the summer holidays already started in my country so this isn't an issue at all, though kick off isn't until 10 in my time zone so its a very late night for my youngest (but no way will I force him to miss it, he's been loving watching the games with me)

The absolute kill joys on this thread 😂😂

The number of people who cannot see the difference between one child being off and missing the content/skills that are taught that day and the whole class being allowed to come in late and so nothing new is done is scary.

10pm isn't that late for primary aged kids.

But yes it's a good idea.

Its the last week of term nothing much gets done in the last week.

And also the fact that the finals the Lionesses made were both in the school holidays. So are the Olympics normally, I think the last time they weren't was in 2000. Plus the Wimbledon finals start in the afternoon. So the timing means none of these things are equivalent.

Ultimately, this is just practical. Because of the timeslot and the popularity of the event, the kids all turning up at the usual time on Monday is not one of the school's choices. They're responding accordingly.

@x2boys

Its the last week of term nothing much gets done in the last week

So another reason for why it is different to child X missing an afternoon earlier in the year.

I think women love it too.

Which is why it has become culturally important.

It is for many. Depends on how you parent I guess. Also it could be 10.45 if it goes to extra time and penalties.

Yes and as the vast majority of the country do indeed care that us why there is a fab spirit of togetherness at present.

You do realise that your view isn't that kf the majority. I love it but can't abide Love Island but realise others do and don't moan about coverage and mentions of it on other shows or even in conversations at work. I accept others are interested and either listen or choose not to.

Yep. It was last time, and bear in mind people won't necessarily be watching at home either. It's very clear that lots of primary aged DC are going to be up later than usual on Sunday night, and some of them will not then be taken to school at the usual time on Monday morning.

They might as well not bother. I hate it the most. No contest.
I still don’t see a problem with the school’s plan though.

I didn’t mean that only men love it. But I find men’s obsession with it much more unsettling than women’s love for it.

You can’t just say that it’s popular because it’s popular. There’s more to it than that. It’s ingrained in our culture in a very toxic way, has lots of issues and problems way worse than an hour off school, but even that is sending the message that it’s more important than anything else because it’s the football.

Also - aware I am sounding like a snob now but I don’t care- it’s pandering to a specific kind of parent. The parents who stayed up all night to watch the election didn’t take their kids in late. Not saying you can only be interested in one or the other, there’s a huge crossover - but there’s a type of football fan who won’t take their kid to school the next day because of a football game the previous night, and that behaviour is being validated by the schools.

It's so the children can watch it, not the parents though.

I can't imagine many Primary school age children wanting to watch the general election over the football.

Its a one off ,England have only played in.two tournament finals both on their own soil
If they win on Sunday it will the first major tournament since 1966
In a world outside of mumsnet people will be happy if they win
I'm no major football fan but I'll be delighted if they win.

Still fewer will have been allowed to stay up late enough to watch the results come in!

People keep making comparisons to events that have totally different timing. It doesn't work. If you want something akin to this, it needs to be held during the English term time, on a school night, starting at 8 and finishing potentially at 11. It needs to be early enough that DC can realistically stay up for it, so not a 2am job, but late enough to be past their usual bedtime ie not the Lionesses playing in the morning.

It’s in part because there will be parents who are too hung over to be able to take their kids in usual time - the late start give those parents an opportunity to take them in other which is better than missing the whole day.

Our school have just announced the same thing. But said children can come in up till morning break without telling us when morning break actually is so that's quite funny.

It’s not a one off. There will always be football. There will always be another match, another final.
I’ll be happy if the team wins because domestic violence rises when they lose.

How often does England get to the final of an international tournament? Not often. We haven't one won in my lifetime. It really is a one off.

Well Englands credentials have significantly improved since women got involved

The issue did arise in 2021, when the England men made the similarly timed final. There were people complaining on here then about schools taking a pragmatic approach, too.

So it's not a one off. But nor is a sensible acknowledgment of reality once in three years at the tail end of term a big deal either. People get overblown about it.