£35.50 to take a car into London 😲

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Confirmed the Blackwall tunnel and the new Silvertown tunnel will become toll tunnels in 2025
£4 per crossing 😡😡 add that to the congestion and ULEZ charge hardly worth going to work !!

Yes, a Conservative type scheme. Allow the rich to do as they please and stop all the plebs.

Expect different from Labour

YABU, 4 people in a car is only £8.87 each. That’s about the same as the daily oyster cap. We still drive as a treat now and then.

Rationing.

So if a tradesmen, then can apply for extra travel for your van.

Exactly. Of course it is possible, but the rich, in charge, don't want it to be so.

OK. How do you find out if car X has a driver with national insurance number Y? If you link it via registered car owner, what happens if it's a woman who's driving her husband's car? Whose ration do those miles come off of? What if they're just a passenger? What about foreign nationals who don't have national insurance numbers?

Most people use the tunnel to avoid paying Dartford crossing it was a free way to cross the river and get to the m25 and m1 north

And whays this nonsense about rationing thsts just stupid, khan already has looked into pay per mile that.is what will be next.

If he really cared about air quality he would ban cars in central London with exemptions for businesses Inc trades. But no it's not about clean air thats just a bonus it's about money.

This exactly.

I have lived all my life in London (62 years) and have never wanted to or needed to drive into central London. Public transport is excellent. The air quality is improving too.

By driving a ulez-compliant vehicle and charging the customer for the congestion charge. The congestion charge area is very small and doesn’t include that many residential properties. People working on construction sites for big buildings travel by public transport and any vehicles are paid for by the construction company.

Lol...90%.....the 10% must live in my street...it costs my husband £285 ish to go to work a month in Ulez, as he's self employed and can't afford a new van that will take wrought iron gates. Of all my childminder friends half have to pay Ulez to work...you can't get on the buses with as double pushchair and 3 or 4 children and school is too far to walk

The childminders need to get new vehicles that are exempt then.

Not for disabled people it's not but that's no ones priority.

I’m pretty much always in favour of cycle lanes, CC, ULEZ and all the rest, but I think charging for both the tunnels in east London whilst leaving all other crossings free is really unfair. The public transport between east and south east London is terrible, whereas there’s plenty of choice apart from driving from Rotherhithe west.

It's the economy [stupid] or something similar. Apparently the UK's greatest export and GDP driver is 'services' - what ever that is.

Apparently, based on this nonsense, no one in the UK should actually make anything, fix anything, or do anything productive at all. Certainly not anything that might require transportation not available via the public transport system.

It actually does blow my mind.

Well maybe don't drive into London? Why would you anyway - it has the best public transport in the UK. You do realise that the rest of the country is madly envious of it?

All of them will put it down as a cost of business, which will be passed onto customers.

I feel more for shift workers who aren’t exactly paid well.

disabled people should be exempt from the charges (I don’t know if they are, but they should be)

Of course it is possible.

But if you'd rather the rich be allowed to do as they please, to be allowed to pollute and pay, then just admit it.

But how can a Labour run city agree to this.

So the people that are too poor to drive in London now have to pay extra to have work done on their houses to cover the charge.

Not very socialist.

Blame everyone who voted S Khan

Hmm depends on the business. For example if you deliver food for Just eats then you are offered a certain amount of money per job. No charging extra and passing on to the customer.

In the congestion charge zone the majority of food delivery "drivers" use bikes.

Motorbikes don’t pay congestion charge. Nobody delivers food in cars in London.

For shift workers, congestion charge is not payable during times public transport not running.

For people who live in the CC zone and have to pay trades more to cover the charge, the CC has been going for over a decade, it’s long been priced into their lives and services.

I’d rather use a trade with a ULEZ compliant vehicle than pay the charge to enable one to pollute near my home. If the charge wasn’t expressly broken down as part of the bill then it would be up to them whether their quote overall was competitive.

Indeed. There always seems to be a lot of people with hardly any knowledge of how London actually works with strangely strong opinions about the congestion charge and ULEZ.

Price the cost of ULEZ/parking/whatever into their quote. Which I'm sure they're already doing.

I'm trying to understand how the idea of "rationing" miles travelled in London could work. Because on the face of it I can't see how it wouldn't be easily circumvented and so would end up being pointless and/or incredibly expensive to run.

If you want to interpret that as me preferring rich people then go ahead, knock yourself out. It's probably easier for you to try to dismiss basic questions like this instead of explaining how your idea would actually be achievable.