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Reasons you wouldn’t move to US

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Preiu · 10/07/2024 14:08

Dh has been offered a job in the US. The increase in salary would put us into a completely different wealth bracket but I really don’t want to move.

  • fear of home invasion with guns
  • school shooting - guns in general I guess
  • American exceptionalism attitude annoys me
  • Being away from family
  • Not having Europe on doorstep

Can I ask if you have any other reasons

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XChrome · 23/07/2024 23:30

dottiehens · 20/07/2024 09:54

There are daily threads here bashing America and Americans. It only tells how jealous they are of the US. What is so threatening for British people about the US?
I bet Americans do not even bother to think twice about the British and their little Britain culture and their miserable weather. 😂

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Wow. That is some batshit crazy talk right there.

knitnerd90 · 23/07/2024 23:45

I would actually say that Americans do think about the British. It's about 45% positive and thinking our accents are adorable (You could have the thickest Scouse accent imaginable, Americans will still love it), 45% odd stereotypes (tea and crumpets, Wimbledon, weather), and 10% ribbing the British on Independence Day. A worryingly large proportion of American ideas about the UK are based on exported dramas, and I fear they overestimate the number of murders in quaint country villages.

TrishM80 · 25/07/2024 14:36

ForGreyKoala · 13/07/2024 01:38

Oh I know - it's a wonder anyone lives there isn't it?

Poor downtrodden things, going bankrupt from being ill, no-one being able to attend college because it's too expensive, and they must all hate their 24/7 jobs.

Meanwhile, in the real world, all the Americans I know are living their best lives and not spending their time on forums moaning about how hard life is and how the government should do something about it.

Point out the inaccuracies in my post.

USA is a great country if you're rich. God help you if you're poor and sick.

SharpOliveHam · 25/07/2024 15:01

I would always be on edge for fear of being shot by a lunatic. I would never have the balls to confront anyone over anything. Push in front of me in the line? Go ahead. Cut me off? It was probably my fault. You just never know

IJustFarted · 25/07/2024 15:05

SharpOliveHam · 25/07/2024 15:01

I would always be on edge for fear of being shot by a lunatic. I would never have the balls to confront anyone over anything. Push in front of me in the line? Go ahead. Cut me off? It was probably my fault. You just never know

Are you scared a lunatic will stab you in the UK or will burn Ur face with acid?

pinkspeakers · 25/07/2024 15:09

Very much depends where in the US. There are parts I would be happy to live and parts I really wouldn't. I spent 5 years in Northern California when I was much younger and that's a pretty good place to live.

Also depends on if you have children and how old they are - is it a good time to move them? Do you have elderly parents? If you are a relatively young couple and would be moving somewhere liberal, well-connected, temperate (probably on the coast!) then I certainly wouldn't rule it out.

SharpOliveHam · 25/07/2024 15:13

IJustFarted · 25/07/2024 15:05

Are you scared a lunatic will stab you in the UK or will burn Ur face with acid?

No because acid attacks and stabbings are almost entirely attributed to gang activity. And outside of London (where I am) they are basically non existent. Plus acid and knives are less deadly.

It’s shocking the number of Americans trying to minimise the danger of guns. No wonder gun laws are so hard to change.

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SharpOliveHam · 25/07/2024 15:21

@IJustFarted

2023
US: 43163 gun related homicides
UK: 244 knife related deaths

Even when you account for population the gun violence in the US is shocking. UK knife crime is nowhere comparable.

Above stat is why I would fear living in the US.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 25/07/2024 15:34

Guns.

SofiaSoFar · 25/07/2024 16:00

SharpOliveHam · 25/07/2024 15:21

@IJustFarted

2023
US: 43163 gun related homicides
UK: 244 knife related deaths

Even when you account for population the gun violence in the US is shocking. UK knife crime is nowhere comparable.

Above stat is why I would fear living in the US.

Edited

On top of that, knife murders are higher in the US per capita, too!

Knife crime just gets a lot more news coverage in the UK because the UK doesn't have the issue of people being shot dead left, right and centre, taking up the airtime.

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ForGreyKoala · 25/07/2024 22:16

TrishM80 · 25/07/2024 14:36

Point out the inaccuracies in my post.

USA is a great country if you're rich. God help you if you're poor and sick.

None of the people are know are "rich". There are a huge number of ordinary Americans you know, and they seem to be doing just fine. Also, what do you define as "poor"? There is medical assistance for the poorest.

Judging by many of the threads on MN the poor in the UK aren't faring so well at the moment - it's hardly utopia!

MissConductUS · 29/07/2024 14:01

wordler · 19/07/2024 19:34

I think we are still talking at cross purposes - what I’m saying is the the main UK supermarkets are all of a similar high standard. There’s not much difference between the different chains in terms of what you can expect there. You get similar options whether you are in a Tesco as a Morrisons and wherever you are in the country you can rely on finding what you need.

I’m saying that’s very different to the US - where it can be very dependent on which state you are in. You say where your parents live the supermarkets down have the wide range of fresh produce choices in their supermarkets - and I’m saying here in my part of Virginia they do.

As I said earlier on this thread - it’s like going to a supermarket in Poland and judging all the supermarkets from Paris to Portugal.

I was in my local supermarket over the weekend and recalled all of the comments on this thread about how people wouldn't move to the US because nobody there eats fruit or veg, so there wouldn't be any in the stores.

You're all correct. It's truly dire, with hardly anything available.

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LittleMissBeamer · 29/07/2024 16:02

Elsvieta · 21/07/2024 17:05

Your kids will grow up American. Maybe go to college, maybe marry Americans. You'll decide to go home when they're adults, and they will stay. Or you will stay and they'll go back to the UK. Or one kid will do one and one the other. One way or another you may end up seeing very little of one of your kids. Or all of them.

The unhealthy lifestyle. Prepare for fat children who eat a lot of junk food and think being asked to walk anywhere is a human rights violation.

The healthcare issue, obviously. Make sure DH's job has REALLY good insurance for the whole family.

Impact on your career. Do you plan to work in the US? Are their opportunities in your field, and if so do your qualifications / experience count for anything there? Will you even be allowed to work under the immigration rules?

Fat kids???! As someone that lives in the US I can tell you that most kids are into sports, sometimes multiple sports. We don’t all live off Cheetos and Twinkie’s 😂. I’m English by the way, and the majority of my UK friends/ family have fat kids that stay inside on their games consoles!

LittleMissBeamer · 29/07/2024 16:10

@MissConductUS Honestly, the ignorance is baffling! I’m not sure where everyone is getting their information from?! The majority are wrong on many accounts. It makes me feel glad that we moved away!

pinkspeakers · 29/07/2024 17:30

LittleMissBeamer · 29/07/2024 16:02

Fat kids???! As someone that lives in the US I can tell you that most kids are into sports, sometimes multiple sports. We don’t all live off Cheetos and Twinkie’s 😂. I’m English by the way, and the majority of my UK friends/ family have fat kids that stay inside on their games consoles!

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That may be true for the people you know, but the obesity rate is twice as high in the US as in the UK.
Obesity Rates by Country 2024 (worldpopulationreview.com)
Admittedly that may not be true for children, but it's harder to find data. An it's got to start somewhere!

Obesity Rates by Country 2024

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/obesity-rates-by-country

LittleMissBeamer · 29/07/2024 17:43

@pinkspeakers from the chart you shared, the majority of the US is at 25% and the UK is at 20%. Also, we were talking about kids. Like I said, sports are a huge part of life for kids here. There is also a lot of land and kids are outside frequently. It doesn’t rain too much so people aren’t stuck inside. Obviously I’m only able to speak about where I live and places I've been. Edit to add I got the percentages totally wrong and it says 45%. If you look up the statistics here then it doesn’t match that at all, so it’s hard to know when those things are correct. I honestly don’t know many overweight people. A lot of people are tall and slim where I live.

OonaStubbs · 29/07/2024 18:02

You can't buy things like Marmite or Custard Cream biscuits in the US. or orange squash. And kettles are a rarity because the electricity is weaker.

PidgeonLife · 29/07/2024 18:04

You can buy marmite, it’s available on Amazon, as are custard creams along with a ridiculously wide variety of electric kettles

OonaStubbs · 29/07/2024 18:23

Yes but they take longer to boil because of the weaker electricity.

poetryandwine · 29/07/2024 19:27

There are numerous flavours of custard cream biscuits available in virtually every US grocery store.

Also plenty of electric kettles. True, they take longer to boil. Not much longer though. Is this really a reason not to live somewhere? Also you can actually use your hairdryer in the bathroom which more than compensates in my view.

MissConductUS · 29/07/2024 20:54

poetryandwine · 29/07/2024 19:27

There are numerous flavours of custard cream biscuits available in virtually every US grocery store.

Also plenty of electric kettles. True, they take longer to boil. Not much longer though. Is this really a reason not to live somewhere? Also you can actually use your hairdryer in the bathroom which more than compensates in my view.

Ah yes, you can't get decent biscuits in the US. This one is also highly accurate, and I have pictures from the same supermarket to prove it.

The selection is rubbish, just rubbish.

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OonaStubbs · 29/07/2024 21:02

not proper biscuits though like custard creams, bourbons and malted milk. You can't get those. Maybe from specialist suppliers of British foods but they will be expensive.

You also can't get Kinder Surprise eggs. They are actually illegal in the US.

MissConductUS · 29/07/2024 21:08

OonaStubbs · 29/07/2024 21:02

not proper biscuits though like custard creams, bourbons and malted milk. You can't get those. Maybe from specialist suppliers of British foods but they will be expensive.

You also can't get Kinder Surprise eggs. They are actually illegal in the US.

Clearly barbarians, the whole lot of them.

MissyGirlie · 29/07/2024 21:09

OonaStubbs · 29/07/2024 21:02

not proper biscuits though like custard creams, bourbons and malted milk. You can't get those. Maybe from specialist suppliers of British foods but they will be expensive.

You also can't get Kinder Surprise eggs. They are actually illegal in the US.

Well, yeah, coz you are Abroad.
You can, nonetheless, get excellent biscuits and cookies in the States.

And sweets... not the same ones, it is true (and most of the chocolate is pretty terrible) but oh my word, cherry sours!

PidgeonLife · 29/07/2024 21:22

A quick google shows you can get them on Walmart online, delivered direct to your house, that well known wee specialised suppliers of British food, yes they’re more expensive than in the UK but not prohibitively so.

im not even American, just this thread is genuinely ridiculous in things being said, that are so easy to google if you take a second.

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