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Wearing a skimpy bikini around teenage son

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Behappyandbehave · 09/07/2024 22:25

I'm late 40's and have recently lost alot of weight. I have treated myself to some new bikinis for an upcoming beach holiday and some are thong styles. I did originally buy the thong ones for when me and DH go away later in the year alone. But every holiday I go on abroad there is so many people younger and older than me showing all their bums! When I was a teen it was rare, but not anymore. Just not sure I'm brave enough or if it would be a massive no with adult/teen children! Wwyd?

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HappierTimesAhead · 10/07/2024 11:51

CharlotteRumpling · 10/07/2024 11:39

As I understand it, men are expected to wear tiny Speedos in France because of hygiene, and because they were wearing the same shorts they wore all day. They are not expected to wear it to look hot for women. Therein lies the difference.

I find it quite odd that women who wear hijabs are considered to be doing what men tell them to do, and women who wear thongs are being boldly independent and empowered.

But where do you draw the line on what and what not to wear to avoid not falling pray to dressing for the male gaze? Do we all shave our heads, wear no make-up and wear a beige sack? Should I avoid wearing anything with a frill or anything slightly form fitting?

I'm genuinely not trying to be difficult, I just think that so much of what women do is policed and wearing a thong on a beach is such an insignificant personal choice, on which the future of feminism does not rest.

ghostlyliving · 10/07/2024 11:53

MrHarleyQuin · 10/07/2024 11:38

You've never seen a male cyclist then. Or a man in Speedos at the beach 🤔

Thank you for proving my point with the cycling example!

Both male and female competitive cyclists wear lycra (its to reduce drag by being streamline, there is a sporting reason for it). The same for both = not sexist!

A sport where men's wear is practical for the sport, but where women's wear predominates in tight impractical clothes = sexist!

And like I said, I've noticed now that seeing this difference between tight clothes for girls and loose practical clothes for boys starts even in little kids in play grounds.

I think its all a bit rubbish.

MrHarleyQuin · 10/07/2024 11:53

It's also clear that a lot of men and women have deep seated internalised misogyny about men's clothes being the default perfect of modesty and appropriateness in dress code and that women's clothing is inappropriate, sexualised and transgressive unless they dress more like a man.

Whether an item of clothing is sexualised is entirely in the eye of the beholder.

katebushh · 10/07/2024 11:54

Wear your bikini with pride but a thong? Absolutely not, they look disgusting!

namechangefandango · 10/07/2024 11:55

I’ve never given it much thought until I read this thread but I know my son would find it uncomfortable.
although I am in no fit state to be seen in a thong bikini …
having read some of the posts as a clean but overweight menopausal woman, I am now wondering if all these love island types have any special skill to stop them being stinky!?
I would be incredibly self conscious about leaving any body odour around on sun loungers etc, how do people stay so fresh and pristine?
especially those wearing all white or just some sort of crochet affair 🙈

namechangefandango · 10/07/2024 11:56

To add, in places like Brazil, thing is the norm and has been forever.
It does depend on what you’re used to.

MrHarleyQuin · 10/07/2024 11:57

ghostlyliving · 10/07/2024 11:53

Thank you for proving my point with the cycling example!

Both male and female competitive cyclists wear lycra (its to reduce drag by being streamline, there is a sporting reason for it). The same for both = not sexist!

A sport where men's wear is practical for the sport, but where women's wear predominates in tight impractical clothes = sexist!

And like I said, I've noticed now that seeing this difference between tight clothes for girls and loose practical clothes for boys starts even in little kids in play grounds.

I think its all a bit rubbish.

I think clothes for women and girls are just about as practical and comfortable as they have ever been throughout history and we have a much wider choice of mainstream acceptable clothing and ways to express ourselves through clothing than men and boys do.

CharlotteRumpling · 10/07/2024 11:58

@HappierTimesAhead I don't know really where to draw the line. I don't have all the right answers. I am not trying to be difficult either! It's just something I think about as I see more and more women my age shoot themselves full of filler, while their fat old husbands age naturally and happily.

And yes, none of this is relevant to the OP, but it set me thinking anyway, as I have a DD, and think about these things probably more than I should?
I too woud like an aperol spritz on a beach.

HappierTimesAhead · 10/07/2024 12:00

CharlotteRumpling · 10/07/2024 11:58

@HappierTimesAhead I don't know really where to draw the line. I don't have all the right answers. I am not trying to be difficult either! It's just something I think about as I see more and more women my age shoot themselves full of filler, while their fat old husbands age naturally and happily.

And yes, none of this is relevant to the OP, but it set me thinking anyway, as I have a DD, and think about these things probably more than I should?
I too woud like an aperol spritz on a beach.

I agree with everything you have said here!

MrHarleyQuin · 10/07/2024 12:02

When I was a little girl I was constantly doing gymnastics wherever there was an open bit of grass and always wore skirts and dresses, which were always tucked into my knickers.

How wonderful that girls have the option of leggings and cycle shorts now. I find it utterly bizarre that people find them a sexual garment.

ghostlyliving · 10/07/2024 12:05

MrHarleyQuin · 10/07/2024 11:57

I think clothes for women and girls are just about as practical and comfortable as they have ever been throughout history and we have a much wider choice of mainstream acceptable clothing and ways to express ourselves through clothing than men and boys do.

Women's and girls clothes have often not been practical or comfortable throughout history! I'm not sure where you have the idea they have been?!

And you have obviously never been running in lycra in heat or rain!

Or observed the difference in male and female Olympic outfits.

Its simply not true that there is an equivalence of comfort or practicality here, but you are free to believe there is if you wish.

Batgin · 10/07/2024 12:09

I do a wide range of sports (running, pole, weight lifting, bootcamps and ocrs + more), and I am so glad for booty shorts and sports bras - put me in anything else and I'm dying. Yet aparently that is wrong because some guys may like looking at me... and so what if they do, I quite like to be found attractive thank you!

Also leggings/tight fitting clothes can actually be safer for certain sports/the playground, as they catch and get caught/tangled less.

MrHarleyQuin · 10/07/2024 12:09

ghostlyliving · 10/07/2024 12:05

Women's and girls clothes have often not been practical or comfortable throughout history! I'm not sure where you have the idea they have been?!

And you have obviously never been running in lycra in heat or rain!

Or observed the difference in male and female Olympic outfits.

Its simply not true that there is an equivalence of comfort or practicality here, but you are free to believe there is if you wish.

Women's and girls clothes have often not been practical or comfortable throughout history! I'm not sure where you have the idea they have been?!

Try reading what I said again.

Women's and girls clothes are more comfortable now than they have ever been throughout history and we have a much wider choice of mainstream acceptable clothing and ways to express ourselves through clothing than men and boys do.

Are you saying I am wrong to prefer wearing lycra in the gym, and it's not a true preference but I have just been brainwashed by patriarchy?

palomatoast · 10/07/2024 12:10

And like I said, I've noticed now that seeing this difference between tight clothes for girls and loose practical clothes for boys starts even in little kids in play grounds.

I got sent a picture of a family members' gymnastics competition yesterday. He's 7 and wearing shorts and a t-shirt and the little girls stood next to him are all in tight, very high leg leotards. It really drove home how differently we treat male and female bodies and from such a young age.

CultOfRamen · 10/07/2024 12:11

Omg just get your bum out if you want.
if your son is embarrassed by this then so what. My daughter told me I was “disturbing” for wearing braids in my hair last week.
wrapping it up in feminism and misogyny and “taste” - who cares it’s just a bum. Everyone in the planet has them.
and the comments about cellulite and pubic hair on show, seriously wtf. Life is too short

MrHarleyQuin · 10/07/2024 12:12

palomatoast · 10/07/2024 12:10

And like I said, I've noticed now that seeing this difference between tight clothes for girls and loose practical clothes for boys starts even in little kids in play grounds.

I got sent a picture of a family members' gymnastics competition yesterday. He's 7 and wearing shorts and a t-shirt and the little girls stood next to him are all in tight, very high leg leotards. It really drove home how differently we treat male and female bodies and from such a young age.

I agree with gymnastics, there is no need for the arse skimming leotards and that is changing. Though that does not mean girls should have to wear the default clothing for boys.

Neapolitanicecream · 10/07/2024 12:14

at the local school there was an objection when unisex trousers were introduced!

Overpayment · 10/07/2024 12:14

What a nasty, bitchy thread.

I think posters would be well-advised to remember that plenty of plus size women will be reading this thread and will most likely be seriously reconsidering their swimwear choices as a result.

Pretty much ALL the s&b threads, where a plus size poster is nervous about wearing a swimsuit on the beach have a unanimous chorus of posters swearing blind they never even notice other women’s bodies/swimwear choices, and certainly wouldn’t judge.

Then you get a thread like this that confirms the exact opposite - women are very much judging other women’s bodies. In the nastiest and most spiteful way too.

Shame on you. I hope this thread gets pulled as it is very much ‘not in the spirit’

Mrsdyna · 10/07/2024 12:16

No, don't do this to your son. I would not do this to mine, he would find it so gross 😂

MrHarleyQuin · 10/07/2024 12:16

Neapolitanicecream · 10/07/2024 12:14

at the local school there was an objection when unisex trousers were introduced!

As there should be, particularly in a secondary school. "Unisex" means "designed for men and women have to lump it".

Ottervision · 10/07/2024 12:21

ghostlyliving · 10/07/2024 11:35

Yes they do. I'm not arguing with that. But an awful lot of the wear for women is tight lycra ( I actually get all my stuff from charity shops and its nigh on impossible to find non-lycra for women in their sports stuff). But not for men.

The only reason for lycra sports wear I can think of is for appearance, to hold in and up your stomach and arse and thighs. Rather than for any actual sporting benefit. The predominance of this wear for women but not men, does rather say loudly to women, its all about what you look like. Much like even at Olympic levels, men's wear is more about practicality and women's more about being revealing.

That disparity is not on, in my book. Its pretty obviously a structural, cultural sexism.

Ah okay, weird considering like a lot of proffesional sports people, men and women, exclusively wear lycra.

Ottervision · 10/07/2024 12:23

Westfacing · 10/07/2024 11:50

The OP specifically asked about wearing thongs in front of her teenage son, not about wearing them on a beach as such.

Where bloody else is she going to wear them? She's clearly talking about being on holiday by a pool or beach. She's not putting them on in the front room and wiggling her arse in front of her children exclusively.

willowtolive · 10/07/2024 12:57

Catnipcupcakes · 09/07/2024 23:03

Troll post?

I don’t care how slim and vital you are, if you’re late forties and have teenage DCs you 100% shouldn’t be wearing a thong on the family holiday.

You asked for opinions.

Yes and she accepted the opinions ?

CrimpNStraighten · 10/07/2024 12:58

willWillSmithsmith · 10/07/2024 08:47

I don’t want to see men in them either (or those things Borat wears). It’s not sexist to not want to see anyone’s arse in public.

I do agree though that’s it’s nearly always women who want everything on show and not men. This goes for pop stars too. Why?

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It’s not sexist to not want to see anyone’s arse in public.

Exactly. I don’t want to see anyone’s bare bum when out. Of any side, shape, sex or colour.

Why is it so important to others that people see their bottoms?!

farnhamgal · 10/07/2024 13:03

Overpayment · 10/07/2024 12:14

What a nasty, bitchy thread.

I think posters would be well-advised to remember that plenty of plus size women will be reading this thread and will most likely be seriously reconsidering their swimwear choices as a result.

Pretty much ALL the s&b threads, where a plus size poster is nervous about wearing a swimsuit on the beach have a unanimous chorus of posters swearing blind they never even notice other women’s bodies/swimwear choices, and certainly wouldn’t judge.

Then you get a thread like this that confirms the exact opposite - women are very much judging other women’s bodies. In the nastiest and most spiteful way too.

Shame on you. I hope this thread gets pulled as it is very much ‘not in the spirit’

This is the best post on this thread.

I really hope everybody reads this. So many of you should be ashamed.