To ask if anyone else on MN is not anti-trans?

[Lilieee]

I'm not interested in someone 'debunking the trans agenda' or how no one on here is like that, all I'm interested in is if any pro-trans Mumsnetters could pop up so I don't feel alone

If they have had operations etcetera and are no longer classified as men then they cannot go here.

What nonsense is this? Operations do not change your sex. Once a man, you'll always be classified as a man.

Is believing ciswomen shouldn’t use the men’s toilets anti-ciswomen?

They should go to a crisis centre for trans people. Don't you know they exist?

Trans men entering womens spaces only makes it easier for actual men to just waltz into a womens toilet with everyone assuming they are a trans man.

Womn, girls and rape survivors fighting desperately for our basic human rights is 'vitriol'.

Now I've heard it all.

The suffragettes are rolling over in their graves.

From the points you made. Duh.

I'm not anti trans, but I'm extremely anti mis gendering people. I'm a she/her. I want to be this. I react swiftly to anyone calling they otherwise. If I sew a comment where someone's gender was taken away by someone else without reason or logic, I will react

It’s a sad world we live in where there has to be someone employed for security in a female toilet!

Do you really believe that trans women are actual women?

If so, I can't take you seriously, I'm sorry.

But they don’t exist. We barely have enough prison space as it is let along building lots of isolation rooms. Sex offenders are put in the general prison population unless an extreme risk to others (presumably they would not be a risk to other men). There isn’t the space nor the budget to be building separate spaces.

you can celebrate them all you want - but don’t try and tell people they are women and that women she up of give up their identity, language, sports and spaces to accommodate someone masquerading as a woman, often using very harmful stereotypes- pushing women’s rights back.

Celebrate your friends by all means, but I don’t need to play along . Fight for third spaces for them if you want to do something positive.

Are you saying you need 'proof' that MEN are not marginalised? The oppressor class?

Are you saying you need 'proof' that a therapist would recommend that you don't give in to the 'I will kill myself' method of manipulation and control?

Yes! Thank god there are more of us

I'm a staunch feminist - I have been in a bathroom with an obviously trans woman and have never felt threatened.

Gender taken away?!

Now I've heard everything.

Agree, although 'regardless of gender' - are you suggesting a transman be put here, sharing a shower with a sex offender transwoman?

Or do you think prisons should be sex segregated?

This....
I will stand shoulder to shoulder with you for your right to present yourself as you see fit and use whatever pronouns/name fits your identity best.... for your dignity...
However, if you look for rights etc that impinge on my rights to safety and my dignity (or anyone elses), you'll find me a little less accommodating

😂😂😂 pathetic

Trans ally here xx

I knew saying I don't want people looking for a fight wouldn't work.

We would have understood “woman”.

Good to know that although we drown in a sea of FWR posters, there are a few of us out there

We might get 'one' example before the end of time as we know it. Don't hold your breath.

I've been in a ladies toilet with a masturbating transwoman. So, you know, experiences vary.

Cis is just a descriptor, like trans.

No need to get so frustrated over it.

You're either a woman or a transwoman.
So 'cis' is not needed.

Are you seriously of the view that a male with his cock and balls in place are a woman? Are you genuinely serious?