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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Being so tight with money?

984 replies

Rockrose94 · 08/07/2024 21:31

For context I have been with my boyfriend for 4 years, we live together and split the rent / bills 50/50. Our take home pay is very similar and I have an extra outgoing of my car finance which he does not. We effectively keep our finances completely separate, I worry how this will work long term as he has said he does not want to share finances at all as he has more savings.

Anyway the main issue just now is 1) he has bought me dinner once in 4 years, for my 30th birthday present. I took him on a foreign holiday and presents for his 30th. I have paid for nights away and meals for us several times when he has said he can't afford it as I wanted to treat him. I don't do this often any more as it's never been reciprocated 2) we split all food shops evenly but usually do our own meals during the week as I am dieting. He just stood for half an hour itemising up every item on the food shops over the weekend to come to the point that I owe him £2.50. Note that he will charge me half of the food we share but he would likely eat 2/3 of the meal. AIBU to be tired of this? It feels so tight , do other people itemise everything and charge their partner almost to the penny?!

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Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:42

MinnieGirl · 13/07/2024 14:15

Then take bedding and towels instead…. And maybe some cushions etc…
I would also take things from the freezer…. You have to eat and you’ve already paid for the food. Get as much out today as you can without him noticing.

Will come as no surprise that all the cushions and the nicer bedding was purchased by me or moving in gifts from family so they'll be coming with. They weren't essential items obviously 😂meter readings noted definitely and speaking to letting agency Monday morning

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Gingernaut · 13/07/2024 14:43

Needanewname42 · 13/07/2024 12:29

@Bishopslaurel Do you mean, extremely mean people are proud of how far they can make their money stretch, ie grapes 🍇 lasting forever.
Or proud of getting other people to pay things for them?

Both to be honest

There's a story about the late Ken Dodd bringing beer to a party, swigging spirits all night and then, because no one wanted warm cans of unpopular beer, when people were drinking glasses of cocktails and spirits, his cans were still there on the side, to take home with him

Misers are happy with getting something for nothing and only pay the bare minimum when they have no choice

Needanewname42 · 13/07/2024 14:57

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:42

Will come as no surprise that all the cushions and the nicer bedding was purchased by me or moving in gifts from family so they'll be coming with. They weren't essential items obviously 😂meter readings noted definitely and speaking to letting agency Monday morning

Absolutely take them with you. And any fancy glasses or kitchen stuff.

shockthemonkey · 13/07/2024 15:08

Hi OP, best of luck for tomorrow.

As to your decision not to tell him it's his miserly behaviour that has driven you away, you're probably right... but also, if he has half a nous, or even quarter of a teensy weeny brain, he will work it out for himself. Deep down, he will know.

Whether he grows from it is his look-out and not your concern!

Fannyfiggs · 13/07/2024 15:42

I hope all goes well for tomorrow. We're all here for support if you have a wobble or you're just feeling a bit shit.

RandomMess · 13/07/2024 15:42

When have your share of the rent until? Plus if he gave notice on Monday how long until the tenancy would end at the earliest.

Noseybookworm · 13/07/2024 15:51

Well done you, you're doing brilliantly! This is the tough bit but you will be through it soon and on the other side is a free and happier life! Look after yourself lovely 💐

beanii · 13/07/2024 16:17

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:03

I have been thinking a lot the last few days and I don't think I have been honest with myself in how much his behaviour has been affecting me. Have gained weight in the last few years as I feel constantly stressed and anxious and I now think it's been down to this relationship. Constantly trying to understand why he's acting like that and feeling like I deserve better but being told otherwise. So I don't think the next parts gonna be easy but honestly it's been mentally draining for so long that it might not be any worse than the past few months!

Well done for realising AND do something about it, that takes a LOT. I've been there - you're living with a covert narcissist. Once you see it, you wonder how you missed it.

Good luck with Sunday - the start of a new chapter in your life, not a negative thing by any means.

Keep us updated how it goes and don't be sucked in with his promise to change - I also did that, but we did have 3 children - he didn't change at all, if anything got worse.

Mix56 · 13/07/2024 16:21

Take as much as you like,( up to half), towels, bedding, kitchen knives, cooking stuff, plants, garden tools,
you have paid for half & will go on to need to buy it again

Fathomless · 13/07/2024 16:21

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:42

Will come as no surprise that all the cushions and the nicer bedding was purchased by me or moving in gifts from family so they'll be coming with. They weren't essential items obviously 😂meter readings noted definitely and speaking to letting agency Monday morning

He'll be living in a sad little house with a sofa, fridge and his even sadder £2.50 that you owe him. Pathetic man

Comedycook · 13/07/2024 16:24

Fathomless · 13/07/2024 16:21

He'll be living in a sad little house with a sofa, fridge and his even sadder £2.50 that you owe him. Pathetic man

I'd hand over £2.49 then watch his next move....

SamW98 · 13/07/2024 16:31

Bishopslaurel · 13/07/2024 11:11

The important aspect to remember is that extremely miserly people are actually proud of their behaviour, and they enjoy being that way, that’s why it’s so difficult to dislodge this behaviour. They feel no shame or remorse and are impervious even to counselling.

My ex told me he had this problem with his ex wife and he went to counselling to “modify” his behaviour. He was still the tightest human being I have ever had the misfortune to encounter. He once gave me 2 grapes as a “snack”, two grapes, nothing else, said he wanted the small punnet to last two weeks. Surely it would be rotten by then? It’s complete insanity.

Imagine spending hundreds on counselling, only to still find it difficult to give more than two grapes.

Run, don’t walk.

And YES, I agree with your idea not to make him self aware, it means future women he meets can also run much earlier, rather than him having a chance to disguise his disgusting behaviour until he’s got his hooks into them.
Great idea to help other women not to waste their time with him.

How long was it before he began to pull these tricks when you first met?

No blame on you, most normal people wouldn’t think to notice this stuff until it got out of hand.

Edited

Totally agree that very tight people aren’t at all embarrassed they positively brag about their stinginess.

My friends partner is so tight he squeaks and he loves it! He tells everyone about his meanness and laughs about it. He honestly had little pegs that he used to hang up tea bags so he can reuse them. And he refused to live with my friend until her teenage daughter had left home because he refused to contribute to arse the gas and electric she used - he used to say yo people ‘she’s kit kind why should I pay for her to use the hairdryer’ with a huge smirk on his face.

I remember him arguing with a cloakroom attendant because he didn’t want to pay £1 to hang his Ralph Lauren jacket up. And I’ve been out so many times where he’s ’forgotten’ his wallet and told her to buy his drinks and he’ll give money back knowing 💯 he’s got no intentions of ever repaying her.

Everyone we know takes the piss out of his tightness and he cracks up and agrees with them. He has no shame at all about it.

ThatsAFineLookingHighHorse · 13/07/2024 17:25

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:08

2 years. We bought all the furniture together but honestly I couldn't care less about taking any of it. I want a clean break and I can't be bothered with the hassle so I'm just taking my own things and a few knick knacks I have bought that I would miss. I know I should fight him for half based on his behaviour but I don't think I have the energy for stuff I don't particularly want

I'd take it out of principle. Make him open up his wallet to replace his half, the miserly arsehole.

Emsbutterfly · 13/07/2024 17:30

Omg this sounds awful I would be so turned off him by now and that itemising the shopping list would be the final straw!

chocolatemademefat · 13/07/2024 17:34

Please tell me you’re not having sex with this misery.

Venice241 · 13/07/2024 17:35

That's why some counselling will be of huge benefit.
In the interim how about buying some books
"Women who love too much"
"Why does he do that" ...which can be downloaded as a free pdf.

I think you will regret leaving all the furniture.
Take photos of everything and send a WhatsApp out to friends, can anyone take a few bits for you.
You would be surprised how kind people can be when someone they care about is exiting a situation like yours.

Also ....You can always tell him you will be coming back for half the furniture.....no need to remove everything immediately. Tell the Landlord and take a video of the place and the condition of it and the furniture before you leave.

You could be so glad of that furniture in a months time when you are in a better head space.

Billybagpuss · 13/07/2024 17:41

Don’t forget to leave your £2.50 on the table as you leave.

good luck

Bigcat25 · 13/07/2024 17:52

ThatsAFineLookingHighHorse · 13/07/2024 17:25

I'd take it out of principle. Make him open up his wallet to replace his half, the miserly arsehole.

Agree. Op paid for it, let him she how it feels to be on the other side of the coin.

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 19:14

I think I'll see how it goes with rent and bills discussion if he is trying to extract more from me but just don't really have the energy to bother about that just now you know. Fed up stooping to the same level to be honest!

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BowlOfNoodles · 13/07/2024 19:21

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 19:14

I think I'll see how it goes with rent and bills discussion if he is trying to extract more from me but just don't really have the energy to bother about that just now you know. Fed up stooping to the same level to be honest!

Sorry for leaving you in the lurch with future rent ( I've taken my name off ) but keep the future as my notice. If you leave on the 28th honestly just contribute your usual months then leave head held high and more than reasonable

PossumintheHouse · 13/07/2024 19:22

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 19:14

I think I'll see how it goes with rent and bills discussion if he is trying to extract more from me but just don't really have the energy to bother about that just now you know. Fed up stooping to the same level to be honest!

So you're ignoring all the advice?

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 19:25

PossumintheHouse · 13/07/2024 19:22

So you're ignoring all the advice?

In terms of the furniture I guess I am. I'm grateful for the advice I just don't feel I have the energy to fight someone so petty in this situation for furniture I don't want which is just my personal feelings and I know I probably "should". I've listened to all the other mountains of advice I've been given in fairness.

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Fgfgfg · 13/07/2024 19:31

Sometimes it's better just to walk away and feel free of the drama even if it costs you money.

Moonpie6 · 13/07/2024 19:34

Good luck!!!! Your new life awaits!

BowlOfNoodles · 13/07/2024 19:35

Fgfgfg · 13/07/2024 19:31

Sometimes it's better just to walk away and feel free of the drama even if it costs you money.

Yes it is I left everything apart from my personal items the awkwardness and potentially things turning volatile just wasn't worth it. I'd actually take the opportunity to remove some stuff the very next time he's out! I was taking bags to my mother's house bit by bit!

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