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To not look at this couple in the same way anymore?

706 replies

AvrilAprill · 07/07/2024 23:17

At the end of last year I made friends with a mum who’d just moved to the area. We got on great, as did our partners.

However, I’ve now found out that they first got together when she was 16 and he was 20/21. It genuinely makes me feel uncomfortable knowing that, and my husband says I’m being weird

OP posts:
HalfwayToHell · 08/07/2024 13:45

I don't think you can make a judgement like that, considering their marriage has stood the test of time. You don't choose who you fall in love with. I grew up with a man who started dating a 14 year old, it was a huge scandal in our village at the time. He was 27. But he was a lovely, kind gentle man. They've been together ever since, over 35 years. I don't think they would agree with you, or their families.

Of course I can make a judgement like that. All the relationship standing the test of time proves is that the grooming was successful. If it's all you've ever known, you often don't see it for what it is.

Caerulea · 08/07/2024 13:52

godmum56 · 08/07/2024 13:43

Crab bucket is the situation where a social group uses group pressure to enforce its rules. So in this case the consensus is that you don't socialise outside of your year group. Females of the group are told that its dangerous and males in other year groups lose friends over it. The action is given a name with unpleasant connotations.

I'm well aware of what it means but your comparison of education is not remotely close the subject of relationships, hence my 'what?!'.

Coconutter24 · 08/07/2024 13:56

CatrionaBalfour · 08/07/2024 09:59

Would you perhaps talk to him, get to know him first?

No, I’d be unhappy about it first. She is a child 16 still in school, 21 year old guys should focus on girls their own age. He could be the loveliest guy in the world but my first reaction would be this isn’t appropriate

Coconutter24 · 08/07/2024 13:58

Vespanest · 08/07/2024 10:02

And if after 10 years together with children would you still be judging them or would you have come to terms with it by then.being rightly concerned at the time is completely different to judging them later

If they are still together in 10 years time obviously I’m sure I’d of come to terms with it. I’d absolutely be concerned at the beginning and not be happy about it however after 10 years I wouldn’t judge them

godmum56 · 08/07/2024 14:05

Caerulea · 08/07/2024 13:52

I'm well aware of what it means but your comparison of education is not remotely close the subject of relationships, hence my 'what?!'.

I agree that the subject of the enforcement is different but the concept that a social group should be entitled to enforce such boundaries; and the enforcement methods (scaring females, threatening males, derogatory naming) are very similar

Sondheimisademigod · 08/07/2024 14:06

godmum56 · 08/07/2024 09:46

you forgot the words daubed on their front door

Apologies!!!! 😂😂

Daisybuttercup12345 · 08/07/2024 14:23

You sound very weird.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 08/07/2024 14:24

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 08/07/2024 12:43

And they made the news, as you say.

Of course, it does happen; but I think we can see the way that the wind usually tends to blow - in real life, and just from people's experiences as recounted on this thread.

So it's not NEVER as you tried to so boldly claim and as my post was disputing

FWIW the case at my school didn't make the papers BTW, they don't all

Moonlightdust · 08/07/2024 14:38

Rosscameasdoody · 08/07/2024 00:13

Oh dear. I was 17 and my husband was 25 when we started dating. He was my first and only boyfriend - a good man and a kind and caring husband for forty years until he died six years ago. We were inseparable almost from the start and didn’t think anything of the age gap - neither did our parents. How times change !!

Yes times have definitely changed. 23 years ago I met my husband when I was 16 (I admit I pretended I was older) and he was 22 (and very young for his age). We married when I was 20. Nobody batted an eyelid. I was very determined and knew I’d found the person I wanted to be with. Had 3 children and are still married!
In all honesty, I wouldn’t be thrilled if my daughter was in a similar situation at 16, but I think that’s unfair to judge people’s relationships and hold that against them! I’d be so upset if someone thought that of me 😢

AnnaL94 · 08/07/2024 15:51

LordPercyPercy · 08/07/2024 11:07

Nothing of what you said has any relevance to what I said.

I don't actually believe your "friends" exist, btw. I think you made the scenario up as a talking point to tell people how old, outdated and disgusting they are.

Typical Mumsnet. Not believing the OP 😂

A 20 year old man being sexually attracted to a 16 year old is disgusting.

betterangels · 08/07/2024 15:55

AnnaL94 · 08/07/2024 15:51

Typical Mumsnet. Not believing the OP 😂

A 20 year old man being sexually attracted to a 16 year old is disgusting.

On this thread he's,disgusting, on so many others he'd be described as hardly an adult, his brain isn't developed, and it would be unreasonable to expect any kind of mature decisions and behaviour from him.

Windchiming · 08/07/2024 16:14

Nanny0gg · 08/07/2024 12:20

So you're not getting the right answers?

Agreed. Questiom was friend 16 and her partner 20 when they met, now OP is comparing with couples meeting at 15 and 25. Op is a busybody.

Sapphire387 · 08/07/2024 16:35

I had a 22yo boyfriend when I was 17. He was, and still is, a lovely man, not some kind of predator. He'd never had a girlfriend before. We're no longer together, but not because of the age gap.

It really isn't your place to judge anyway, you sound like you need to focus on other things in your life instead of getting bothered by something so... irrelevant to you.

PCController2 · 08/07/2024 16:37

The age gap might be a little unusual these days but it's no big deal, only 4 years.

radiatorbed · 08/07/2024 17:11

A mature 16 year old realises that 21 year old men interested in them are weird for being interested in them. That's real maturity

Wise words.

Caerulea · 08/07/2024 17:27

Windchiming · 08/07/2024 16:14

Agreed. Questiom was friend 16 and her partner 20 when they met, now OP is comparing with couples meeting at 15 and 25. Op is a busybody.

OP didn't do that, it's been done in the thread. We even had a lovely story about a 14yo & a 27yo living happily ever after🤮

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 08/07/2024 17:32

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 07/07/2024 23:21

Yeah, that’s grim.

Don't be so ridiculous. Pearls are expensive y'know. Unclench the death grip.

CaptainOliviaBenson · 08/07/2024 17:33

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 07/07/2024 23:21

Yeah, that’s grim.

Why? I was 16 when I met my husband, he was 20. Been together for 30 years.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 08/07/2024 17:33

radiatorbed · 08/07/2024 17:11

A mature 16 year old realises that 21 year old men interested in them are weird for being interested in them. That's real maturity

Wise words.

No, ignorant and closed minded words.

radiatorbed · 08/07/2024 17:36

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 08/07/2024 17:33

No, ignorant and closed minded words.

One of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen on MN and there is stiff competition.

So smart, mature teenage girls are 'ignorant and closed minded' for not wanting the attentions of (at least) socially inadequate or (at worst) predatory 20 something year old men?

Ok then...

radiatorbed · 08/07/2024 17:36

Caerulea · 08/07/2024 17:27

OP didn't do that, it's been done in the thread. We even had a lovely story about a 14yo & a 27yo living happily ever after🤮

Bloody hell I missed that one!

CaptainOliviaBenson · 08/07/2024 17:38

Ponoka7 · 08/07/2024 00:11

It depends on their age now. In the 80/90's ID wasn't needed, so life experience at those ages would have been similar, we were drinking in pubs from 14/15. In a lot of girls cases, were they'd been helping their Mum etc run the house/babysit and had learnt about the importance of budgeting, they could actually be a lot more mature than the 20 year old lad. There was an age difference between me and my DH and I know we were judged by some, but I was honestly old enough at 16 (1984) to leave my parents house and set up home. We were different than today.

This! I was going clubbing and getting stonking drunk from 14/15 onwards. Worked in a bar at 15.

CaptainOliviaBenson · 08/07/2024 17:40

AvrilAprill · 08/07/2024 00:38

I think I’m talking to the wrong generation or people that are defensive, because it’s weird for a 20 or 21 year old to be dating a girl in secondary school.

It wasn’t that long ago that online and in news that there were articles about Billie Eilish’s controversial relationship because she was 21 and he was 31 and they’d known each other when she was 15.

OP can you not see the difference in a 4-year age gap and a 10-year age gap? Confused

CaptainOliviaBenson · 08/07/2024 17:46

Caerulea · 08/07/2024 00:41

My jaw has dropped further & further reading these replies! Who ARE you people? 'oh but she's legal now', how very The Sun.

A 20yo has no business being with a 16yo whichever way round it is. Christ it's vile! The latter is still in school ffs.

OP - I'd not change my relationship with her/them based on it, though, assuming they are both adults (WHICH 16 WASN'T!!) & their relationship is healthy.

I wasn't still in school when I was 16! My parents left school when they were 14. Depends on their generation, doesn't it?

CaptainOliviaBenson · 08/07/2024 17:48

HolyPeaches · 08/07/2024 00:47

I think it’s weird.

16 year olds are either in school doing their GCSE’s or have left school within the past year. They can’t drive. They can’t legally purchase alcohol or go in nightclubs. They’ve only been teenagers for 3 years.

A 20 year old could be in the final year of university or working a full time job. They will have more life experience compared to a 16 year old. Actually the more I think about it the more creepy it seems for a 20 year old to be sexually attracted to a 16 year old.

I think age gaps are fine when both people are over 18. But an adult and a school pupil. Absolutely not 🤢🤮

Again that's now! 20, 30 40+ years ago people started adulthood a lot earlier. Kids left school at 14 and 15, went to the pub at 14, 15.

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