To say a massive well done to the people of France...

[MrsBennetsPoorNerves]

For telling the far right National Rally to fuck off to the far side of fuck!!!

So relieved!

Yes, amazing that foreigners in France don't want to be excluded from many jobs and from claiming any benefits, while simultaneously being blamed for all the country's ills. I think a pp is right and we must all be anti-somatics like Melonchellon.

Macron got it right.

I do know it's a company actually and I thought that as I pressed post but couldn't be bothered to edit it because for the purposes of the discussion it's pretty irrelevant.

@Anonym00se momentum flourished under corybn and all sorts of nasty nasty stuff sprang up including putting bricks through fellow Labour mps windows.

Personally I'm the middle I like some policies from both side but I'm middle ground.
I fear any extremists left and right.
Equally and I wouldn't be cheering in France right now at all.

Let the riots commence.....oh!

@DTisawazzock

Sorry you can't say that on MN.

In the eyes of many posters on here that makes you a far right racist and a fascist.

@SloaneStreetVandal

"Isn't it interesting that posters who consider themselves terribly liberal are also the most hostile and intolerant of an alternative view?"

This

So you based your beliefs on one example? I am " a left leaning type" ,as you eloquently put it, and I do not find this acceptable.
Can you name, please, the countries with "such cultures"?

Rioting is the national pastime regardless of which party governs, although it's generally confined to the odd city centre or dodgy housing estate. At least we have avoided (for now) the Kristallnacht situation that many of us feared following an RN victory.

That said, if it's France v England on Bastille Day, I'm probably staying home.

@TwigletsAndRadishes I meant the reaction of the lefties would have been very different! Or are you saying that’s it’s an admirable feature of the left that theyre always happy to stand by and see women being oppressed and have their rights taken away whoever the oppressor is.

Agreed. Ultimately, for the foreseeable, France seems ungovernable. Which is no cause for celebration by any logic!

Oh, I see. Sorry, I thought you were saying that the right wingers would make an exception for white Christians. Yes I agree with you, the left wing 'progressives' would be much more judgemental of white Christians.

Anyone knows the proper the translation into French of the term "hung parliament"? (It's not 'parlement suspendu' by the way..)

That’s utter rubbish. I’m on the left and I don’t think it’s racist to save children from trafficking. Nor would the vast majority of the left. The difference is that your colleagues were probably scared of getting into trouble, regardless of their political beliefs. Just like the social workers in Rochdale.

It is simple really. In France, voters come together for the greater good. It isn't about what the individual wants. I am glad that it isn't.
I suggest you read "The social contract" by Rousseau.

I vividly remember a Labour MP on Question Time many years ago refusing to condemn the fatwah against Salman Rushdie.

He was far from alone in the Labour Party of the day.

You find it irrelevant, I don't.

And they were condemned by Corbyn, who is a pacifist. People hated him because he said he’d never push the nuclear button. He is anti-violence, a vegetarian, and anti-war. Momentum was mostly made up of older ‘peace and love’ hippy types, but was hijacked by communist agitators. That isn’t democratic socialism that the majority of us who consider ourselves leftists adhere to.

How’s the comment asking if you have a Crystal Ball in any way rude, it isn’t, it is pointing out the obvious that you don’t know that at all!

Actually I guess my comment was a bit rude. Sorry @SloaneStreetVandal. At my age I ought to know better.

I'll never be tolerant and always be intolerant to white nationlist racists like Le Pen and Reform , just as a I am to Muslim extremists.

Sorry.

Omg change the record and chill out.. so angry about this non issue but not about racism.

You’ve certainly been rude to me.

I’m still waiting for you to show me where I praised Corbyn.

Your inaccuracies on history and British politics are just intellectually painful, sorry if I am outlining the truth, I suppose some people find the truth offensive!

Great news but just as with the 'Reform' party, we need to look at why people vote for them, much as I hate these far right parties. It'll appeal largely to those who don't feel they have much stake in society, 'zero hour' contracts, inability to get mortgage etc. My belief is that their needs will be more served by the moderate left parties but these parties have to demonstrate this. it's much easier for people to point to the immigrant as the source of their problems, something which has gone on for time immemorial. I don't like the far left either which can involve anti Jewish sentiments but they're generally not as hateful, ugly or racist as the far right.