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To be so happy at so many women in the cabinet

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Standupcitizen · 06/07/2024 19:16

Anyone else absolutely thrilled to see women represented equally in the cabinet for the first time ever?

22 appointments. 11 women, 11 men. It seems completely deliberate. Previously the highest % of females in the cabinet was something like 38%. First female chancellor in history as well.

I feel elated that for the first time in my life, we have equality of the sexes in government.

Whatever you think of starmer, the labour party or of the women in question, this is absolutely huge to me, i feel ridiculously emotional about it. I think as a woman who has been dismissed, talked over, belittled, discriminated against and overlooked for promotion in favour of men in the workplace - if the government can do it, then other companies have no excuse.

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absquatulize · 08/07/2024 07:20

absquatulize · 08/07/2024 07:07

David Blunkett wasn't a minister in the last Labour government,

Sorry that posted before I had finished.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41796213

David Blunkett wasn't a minister in the last Labour government, he wasn't a minister after November 2005.

Gordon Brown visits City Academy in Hackney

Gordon Brown reveals fight for eyesight in new memoir

Ex-PM also opens up about his struggle to reach voters in the "touchy-feely" social media era.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41796213

StarieNight · 08/07/2024 07:31

@Standupcitizen

Have you done any research into it?. It's just it was a non issue to me also until I started to follow a few threads about it.

StarieNight · 08/07/2024 07:34

The women in that cabinet will be no better than the commanders wives in the handmaid's tale unless they all understand what has been going on
So no, I don't share your enthusiasm yet op.

Sahara123 · 08/07/2024 07:38

Houseplanter · 06/07/2024 20:25

Absolutely this

Utterly ridiculous to tick boxes, which is what he's clearly doing. All men, all women, all black.

It shouldn't matter.

This, absolutely.

Swiftiesforlife25 · 08/07/2024 07:41

Rainbowsponge · 06/07/2024 20:29

If they have any they’re not visible. I think it’s unlikely they have mental/psychological disabilities given their positions.

Some physical disabilities are not visible.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 08/07/2024 07:55

HelenaWaiting · 08/07/2024 02:49

That's dishonest. If your adding the votes for the Tories and Reform together, you should be comparing them to all the votes for progressive parties added together. All you're doing is shuffling numbers around until you get the answer you want.

You haven't understood my point at all.

HelenaWaiting · 08/07/2024 07:58

MistyGreenAndBlue · 08/07/2024 07:55

You haven't understood my point at all.

Oh, I think I have.

SeasickAccountant · 08/07/2024 07:58

I share your excitement OP. It matters. It counts. It will make a difference to what our children see and expect.

BIossomtoes · 08/07/2024 07:59

HelenaWaiting · 08/07/2024 07:58

Oh, I think I have.

I think you have too. And so transparent.

SharonEllis · 08/07/2024 08:02

absquatulize · 08/07/2024 07:20

Sorry that posted before I had finished.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41796213

David Blunkett wasn't a minister in the last Labour government, he wasn't a minister after November 2005.

That's nitpicking of the highest order. If you define the last Labour government by the period that Labour was in power from 97-2010, which is how most people would do it, rather than by Parliamentary session, then Blunkett was not only a minister but Home Secretary, one of the most important ministers.

Djthhtk9494 · 08/07/2024 08:12

I too share your happiness op.

absquatulize · 08/07/2024 08:24

SharonEllis · 08/07/2024 08:02

That's nitpicking of the highest order. If you define the last Labour government by the period that Labour was in power from 97-2010, which is how most people would do it, rather than by Parliamentary session, then Blunkett was not only a minister but Home Secretary, one of the most important ministers.

But it does rather illustrate the point that disability is not always visible, if posters did not realise the PM was disabled.

StarieNight · 08/07/2024 08:47

Oh dear, Harriet Harnon has just been on itv, very curt, no nonsense.

She said there has been "confusion" around the equalities act and there needs to be clarification around safe spaces only allowing women in.

It's just some confusion basically.

It's only about safe spaces.

It's been made into more than what it is by being a political football.

BIossomtoes · 08/07/2024 09:08

StarieNight · 08/07/2024 08:47

Oh dear, Harriet Harnon has just been on itv, very curt, no nonsense.

She said there has been "confusion" around the equalities act and there needs to be clarification around safe spaces only allowing women in.

It's just some confusion basically.

It's only about safe spaces.

It's been made into more than what it is by being a political football.

Quite right too. It makes a change to hear some common sense from the most woman centred, feminist MP we’ve ever had. Now she’s retired she’s free to tell the truth.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/07/2024 09:14

Harriet 'PIE' Harman.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/07/2024 09:24

most woman centred, feminist MP we’ve ever had

Yeah if you mean the women who have penises. Thanks for the laugh.

BIossomtoes · 08/07/2024 10:07

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/07/2024 09:24

most woman centred, feminist MP we’ve ever had

Yeah if you mean the women who have penises. Thanks for the laugh.

I thought this wasn’t about the trans issue?

MistyGreenAndBlue · 08/07/2024 10:11

StarieNight · 08/07/2024 08:47

Oh dear, Harriet Harnon has just been on itv, very curt, no nonsense.

She said there has been "confusion" around the equalities act and there needs to be clarification around safe spaces only allowing women in.

It's just some confusion basically.

It's only about safe spaces.

It's been made into more than what it is by being a political football.

Oh HER! She of the "Paedophile Information Exchange" infamy .
I don't think anyone needs to be listening to her tbh
She has apparently learned nothing.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/07/2024 10:14

BIossomtoes · 08/07/2024 10:07

I thought this wasn’t about the trans issue?

HH believes some women have penises. This then affects women’s rights to single sex spaces as women with penises (at least by HH’s silly billy comprehension, we all know they can’t have a penis) are…. male. It’ll drop for you eventually. In fact it’s probably already dropped, you just can’t stand women being able to want and access single sex spaces. I note you never bothered to address my last question, you just continue to sea lion anyone else who thinks this isn’t an important issue. It is and it’ll continue to be.

KimberleyClark · 08/07/2024 10:14

Sahara123 · 08/07/2024 07:38

This, absolutely.

And yet if he’d picked a predominantly male cabinet he’d have been criticised for that too. He can’t win.

absquatulize · 08/07/2024 10:16

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/07/2024 10:14

HH believes some women have penises. This then affects women’s rights to single sex spaces as women with penises (at least by HH’s silly billy comprehension, we all know they can’t have a penis) are…. male. It’ll drop for you eventually. In fact it’s probably already dropped, you just can’t stand women being able to want and access single sex spaces. I note you never bothered to address my last question, you just continue to sea lion anyone else who thinks this isn’t an important issue. It is and it’ll continue to be.

That is indeed what the law says.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 08/07/2024 10:17

BIossomtoes · 08/07/2024 07:59

I think you have too. And so transparent.

Whereas you @Blossomtoes are so opaque nobody could ever penetrate your agenda 😂

StarieNight · 08/07/2024 10:23

@MistyGreenAndBlue her tone triggered me.

StarieNight · 08/07/2024 10:29

To be fair to blossom people can't take on every issue out there.
It's not important to some people, personally, I understand my own remit is limited (that's not totally say I can't empathise with others issues). But I'm glad others bring up issues that affect us all, it all comes together, eg those worried about disabled peoples access rights eg getting in and out of train station or buses, those worried about midwives available fir home births and so on.
Those who bang the drum about sen issues in the schools and I appreciate all of them.

urbanbuddha · 08/07/2024 10:43

Labour won because the vote was split. NOT because this country wants them in.

Labour won because the country wanted the Conservatives out.