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Is it fair to have a go at a friend who cancels plans?

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Honeysucklelane · 05/07/2024 16:29

Had to cancel plans with friends yesterday, due to work. It’s the third time I’ve not been able to go, for a genuine reason each time. I’ve got two jobs, kids and sometimes I get ill.

It was nothing expensive or special, just a walk. The others still went. I felt really bad I couldn’t go. Despite apologising and wishing them a great time, one of them sent a really off message about it.

For once I stood up for myself and said that they should be kinder if a friend can’t make something. We’ve now totally fallen out.

I’m wondering if I should have just bit my lip and ignored their snarky remarks?

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Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 05/07/2024 21:27

Honeysucklelane · 05/07/2024 21:25

Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply I had no childcare. Just that it was the only day I had off to do something with them. I feel guilty when I’m working in the holidays, so any opportunity I can, I’ll take them
out and do something with them rather than ‘leave them home alone.’ I meant as in leaving them home alone whilst I go off out with friends.

That’s fair enough. I understand that.

Honeysucklelane · 05/07/2024 21:29

daliesque · 05/07/2024 21:23

What kind of person gets testy when you refuse an invitation because you already have plans?

Erm one who has had enough of the I have kids, you don't, therefore my time is more important attitude that the OP is showing on this thread....so obviously letting it slip with these friends.

That’s not fair, I’ve been out several times with them. I haven’t let anything ‘slip with them’ because I have kids. If I’d have had another day off to spend with the kids, I’d have gone out with the friends - but I couldn’t chose them over my kids on the only day I had off in the holiday.

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Honeysucklelane · 05/07/2024 21:34

Zanatdy · 05/07/2024 21:21

It does get annoying when people constantly cancel, but I wouldn’t have a go at anyone. I’d just say you’re not going in future and then on the day if you’re free let them know you can attend. Some of them are clearly annoyed with you, whatever your reason for cancelling

I understand that, but I wouldn’t have a go. Especially not if someone is ill or had to work. One of the others had to work last minute and they were totally sympathetic about it, which felt like double standards.

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Honeysucklelane · 05/07/2024 21:38

savethatkitty · 05/07/2024 21:23

I had a friend, back when we were both pre kids, who used to cancel at the last minute regularly. We are no longer friends. Sometimes one excuse is just one excuse too many, even if it's justified.

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That’s completely understandable. I cancelled once last minute, because I was ill. Still got told that was very poor form at the last minute. So I gave fair notice / warning that I wouldn’t / might not be able to make it the next times.

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NotbloodyGivingupYet · 05/07/2024 21:42

daliesque · 05/07/2024 21:07

They don’t have kids.

Ahh I knew this was coming. After the comments about you mum friends being more understanding. I imagine you have once too often cancelled with the excuse that as you have kids your time js more important than theirs.

That's why they're pissed off with you.

I would be too because if I'd arranged something with a group of friends for an afternoon then I have spent a lot of time and energy rearranging things. I will have probably called in no end of favours to allow me the time off. My friendship group would have done the same. And then someone cancels with the attitude that their time and life is more important than mine and my friends because they have kids blah blah blah, too damn right I'm going to be annoyed. And yes, they will be told and no, I wouldn't bother with them again.

Well with that attitude I expect that OP isn't too upset that you're not one of her friends. Looking after your kids can't be put into a box until a more convenient time.

Honeysucklelane · 05/07/2024 21:42

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Yes, in a way I’m relieved it’s come to a head. I was dreading telling them I had to work as they weren’t sympathetic when I was ill. I could have kept quiet and not replied when someone had a go at me, but then I’d only be letting myself down.

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Sconeswithnutella · 05/07/2024 21:51

Some people are so uptight! I agree with the poster who said that friendships are not supposed to be so rigid. My friends and I have quite demanding family commitments and jobs so frequently cancel on each other, not because we want to but because life gets in the way. I don’t think YABU OP. You cancelled going for a walk, not going to someone’s wedding.

Mary46 · 05/07/2024 21:51

There is def more to juggle when u have kids. Op maybe you have outgrown these friends.

letsgoooo · 05/07/2024 22:10

Jeschara · 05/07/2024 16:40

I don't know how you can't see that this looks bad and flaky. To be fair they seem fed up with you.
Please be careful, you will lose friends if you carry on like this.

Getting ill and then having to work is hardly being flaky. How precisely would a non flaky person handle this?

letsgoooo · 05/07/2024 22:11

Balloonhearts · 05/07/2024 16:46

You've stood them up 3 times. I'd have told you to do one by now and found better friends.

Becoming unwell and having a job isn't standing people up.

letsgoooo · 05/07/2024 22:14

Absolutelyfractious · 05/07/2024 16:58

Sorry OP I've got a frequently flakey friend and to get to the stage of telling you off, either it's hit a nerve with your friend or maybe a pattern has emerged that maybe goes back further than this.

Just don't be a flake. Either prioritise your arrangements or don't make them at all. I know fomo and all that but your just disappointing your friends.

One time she was unwell
The second time she never said she was going. She said no at the outset
Third time work happened.

So only number 3 was even possibly something avoidable.

Do you regularly get angry with friends for getting ill and for saying they can't attend something when it's first suggested because of childcare?

letsgoooo · 05/07/2024 22:16

Hesma · 05/07/2024 17:20

It really pisses me off when flaky people repeatedly cancel plans. I’d just wouldn’t bother inviting you as it’s downright rude!

Rude to get ill?
Rude to say no when the event is first suggested as you know you can't go?
How are these rude?

Honeysucklelane · 05/07/2024 22:17

letsgoooo · 05/07/2024 22:11

Becoming unwell and having a job isn't standing people up.

Maybe they meant ‘stood them up’ three times. 🤔

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Honeysucklelane · 05/07/2024 22:18

Sconeswithnutella · 05/07/2024 21:51

Some people are so uptight! I agree with the poster who said that friendships are not supposed to be so rigid. My friends and I have quite demanding family commitments and jobs so frequently cancel on each other, not because we want to but because life gets in the way. I don’t think YABU OP. You cancelled going for a walk, not going to someone’s wedding.

Thanks. I didn’t want to cancel and felt bad about it.

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Honeysucklelane · 05/07/2024 22:23

Mary46 · 05/07/2024 21:51

There is def more to juggle when u have kids. Op maybe you have outgrown these friends.

I think so too. There’s been other stuff that’s been off, like slagging a mutual acquaintance off then sucking up to them on FB. I’ve come to realise that one person is toxic, the other is forthright, and the other is really lovely and hasn’t commented at all on me not going other than to say sorry we’ve missed you.

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NotbloodyGivingupYet · 05/07/2024 23:02

OP I hope reading these responses is helping you to clarify your thoughts. The people here calling you flaky seem to have no understanding of the responsibilities you are having to juggle. They are lacking in empathy, and sound quite immature in their selfcentredness.
I hope you are seeing your friends in a more critical light. You really don't need to apologise to them. Of course a single working mum is going to have daytime commitments.
Your friends don't seem to understand how lucky they are that they can just pick a day and be confident that they will make it.

Mary46 · 05/07/2024 23:18

Yes I remember my friend cancelling years ago at the last minute and I had a young baby to juggle. So sometimes its not that easy like the op said. She sounds genuine not sure what age her kids are.

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allaboardtheplaybus · 06/07/2024 07:16

Tbh you clearly think you were being perfectly reasonable so I don't know why you've started the thread.

Most people have suggested that yes, you're pretty flaky and your friends have reason to be pissed off but you've come back with one defence after another 😂

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NotbloodyGivingupYet · 06/07/2024 07:30

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Are you one of OP's walking group? You seem curiously invested in labelling her the unreasonable one.
OP has explained many times that her children are old enough to leave on their own. But, unaccountably, OP wanted to spend that one day of the half term when she wasn't working, with her kids! Hard to fathom I know.
And she has explained that she did not cancel that time, she said up front she couldn't make the date.

Greydays10 · 06/07/2024 07:32

When you juggle a lot, things come up.
Thank goodness me and my friends are understanding of this.
We would never have a go at each other, not least in these circumstances when no one was inconvienced.

OP, I wouldn't tolerate being lectured in these circumstances.
Let them off and focus on friends that understand that life is busy and sometimes flexibility is required.

You weren't able to join your friends, you certainly didn't let anyone down by not going, or prevent them from going ahead without you.

Oh and the suggestion that someone would blow off work for a walk, in a job they need, must be on glue.

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