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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To wonder if DP is all he seems?

481 replies

sunniedee · 05/07/2024 11:05

Hi mumsnetters

I’ve changed my username because I’ve posted here quite a lot and have a few school mum friends on here who might recognise me. I’m very conflicted about my current DP and in need of some impartial, honest, unfiltered MN advice because it’s quite difficult / confusing to discuss this with family and friends.

I’ve been with my DP for around 9 months now but I've known of him distantly for around a year longer because of the social circles we’re in. I came out of a relationship about 11 months ago so I hadn’t really got to know DP a lot during that but we started seeing each other soon after my separation with my ex. I know this seems quite quick but during the time we’ve been together he's been absolutely lovely, he’s treated me with so much kindness and respect and we have such an amazing connection that I’ve really never felt before - I genuinely feel like we could go the distance. He has two DC’s and I have one DC. At times I can absolutely envision us having a DC together, maybe even getting married. I feel so lucky to have met him, he is soft and gentle, which is so refreshing as my previous relationship of 10 years was toxic and unpleasant.

BUT…. There’s more context to the story which plants seeds of doubt in my mind, but I feel dreadful that I'm even saying that because he really is so lovely to me.

I’ll jump into it.. his two DC’s are by two BM’s. He's currently having problems with his youngest DC’s BM. She brought social services into the picture which from what he told me seems to be an extreme measure. Without disclosing too much information (that I know), SS assessed and said no further action needed but they’ve brought in another service to offer support, which includes parenting work for him to do. From my experience of him I’m really surprised, he seems to be such a good dad, he loves his DC's and he's really been affected by this. His contact with his youngest DC has been limited during this time which he’s really struggled with. He tried to get the situation back to normal as quick as possible so we can still have time together too, any parent is entitled to their own adult time. But his ex has been offering him alternative days to have his DC (she says to fit around the reason SS were involved) and some of them work well but sometimes they would fall on occasions that we had planned to go away or spend time together so he’s ended up missing out on seeing his DC because of this. BM says that some of these days are so she can work but I don’t see why she can’t just work other days instead.

The thing is I'm aware that SS were also involved when he broke up with the BM of his eldest DC and he had to go to court for contact. From what I can gather the oldest's BM was a bit unhinged and DP ended up getting full custody. That DC now goes to her mums about 40/60. I’ve never met either BM but I’ve a couple of mutual(ish) friends with the youngest's BM who have told me she's nice, but I know break-ups can bring out the worst in people no matter how “nice" they are. He's never spoken badly about either of his ex BM’s, which I really love about him, but from what he does say it seems to be quite easy for me to read between the lines and paint the picture myself.

I’ve been feeling so awful for him to have this happen to him twice, he really doesn't deserve it. I also feel absolutely terrible for having the slightest niggle of doubt in my mind but a couple of things some friends have said keep playing over for me and I don’t know whether to listen to them or ignore them.

AIBU to think I should try to put it to the back of my mind and focus on the positive, I know people can be different in different relationships so maybe they just weren’t right for each other?

YABU - to have doubts and wonder if there's more with DP than meets the eye.

YANBU - to think DP is lovely with me so I should keep my focus on our own relationship and not pay too much mind to the rest.

EDITED: I’ve realised my post title might contradict my YABU / YANBU options, hopefully it’s not confusing but answers based on the options above would be great.

TIA!

OP posts:
Tandora · 05/07/2024 20:32

So this man has children with 2 different women and in both cases there has been social services involvement? And you are imagining having more children with him?? Give your head a good wobble.

lowsugarchilli · 05/07/2024 20:38

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ARichtGoodDram · 05/07/2024 11:36

But his ex has been offering him alternative days to have his DC (she says to fit around the reason SS were involved) and some of them work well but sometimes they would fall on occasions that we had planned to go away or spend time together so he’s ended up missing out on seeing his DC because of this.

Choosing you, his girlfriend of 9 months, over his child tells you a lot.

Choosing you over the child that has ended up with SS involvement is, frankly, ridiculous.

If he was a decent father then in the midst of social services involvement he’d be taking every opportunity to spend time with his child, prioritising his child, on his days off.

And two crazy exes and two lots of social services involvement?

This is what jumped out at me.

Firstly, why is he prioritising OP over the child under these circumstances - and also why is OP not encouraging him to do everything possible to co-operate as much as reasonable, given the circumstances.

He may be lovely and he may love his kids, but that doesn't follow that he will automatically be a great partner or dad. Love is all well and good, but practicality and recognising what needs doing is more important.

BigFatLiar · 05/07/2024 21:37

But his ex has been offering him alternative days to have his DC (she says to fit around the reason SS were involved)

I call bullshit. She's changing the days to suit her own itinerary and expects him to jump.

If there's an agreed schedule for care they both need to stick to it. Otherwise its you can't go on holiday next weekend I need you to look after little Fred you'll just have to cancel.

Agirlnamedsam · 06/07/2024 00:45

I really hope this is completely made up, as I cannot believe any adult is such a fucking idiot to have a relationship with this man who is literally draped in a red flag

Greengagesnfennel · 06/07/2024 00:50

RUN. Run away from this. That little niggle in your mind. It’s right.

ziggiestardust · 06/07/2024 02:19

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This. Another mother who will choose the men in her life over her child(ren) and then be utterly mystified when they keep their distance from her in adulthood. What’s the issue with being single? Can you really not cope without a man?

MissTrip82 · 06/07/2024 03:25

Nobody who cared for their child could let this person into their life. Nobody.

Protect your child.

NonPlayerCharacter · 06/07/2024 08:29

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Sadly, I think you're right.

Men and women put their shit relationships above their children all the time.

LazyGewl · 06/07/2024 09:20

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I see this far too often - that a mum who says she would die for her kids ends up putting them through a life of hell just so that mum can retain the fantasy status of “wife”. Absolutely pathetic.

We have got to realise that being a single woman is not a failure.

SamW98 · 06/07/2024 09:25

ziggiestardust · 06/07/2024 02:19

This. Another mother who will choose the men in her life over her child(ren) and then be utterly mystified when they keep their distance from her in adulthood. What’s the issue with being single? Can you really not cope without a man?

Reading the OP she got with this guy 2 months after the end of her 10 year relationship- presumably with her child’s father.

Barely letting his side of the bed get cold before rushing heading into another toxic man’s arms with her poor child dragged along behind her.

Im sure in a couple of years we’ll have the OP starting a thread ‘I’ve been left holding the baby’ after the bloke swans off to the next victim leaving another child he barely sees.

Another one in the long list of MN threads where dick gets prioritised over kids

Rondel · 06/07/2024 09:27

So ‘AIBU to have a rebound relationship and plan to have a child with a man with children from two previous relationships whom he neglects in order to see you, and who has had two instances of SS involvement?’

Seriously?

JustAnotherManicMomday · 06/07/2024 09:29

Ss do not get involved lightly. I would personally contact them myself and say I am not asking for specific info but if there is anything that could be a concern could they please tell you.

Ohnobackagain · 06/07/2024 09:56

@sunniedee 2 SS interventions could be an unfortunate coincidence, or he’s hiding a terrible secret or the kids’ Mums are or something in between. To a certain extent you have to go by what you know, while keeping your own boundaries and standards. I honestly don’t think this is a situation where you should end it (it might all work out, it might not). But you haven’t been together long and now you are ready to find out more. So yes, a Clare’s law check might be an option but otherwise I think just be careful and take it slow while you learn more about his character.

Rockschooldropout · 06/07/2024 10:07

Sadly the OP has already made her choice - I suspect she was hoping for validation from this thread which clearly she wasn’t going to get .
sigh

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 06/07/2024 10:11

It is shocking what so women (and maybe men, I don't know) will put up with not to be single.

It's true society is set up for couples but if you have just a tiny bit of strength you can manage.

BigFatLiar · 06/07/2024 10:33

JustAnotherManicMomday · 06/07/2024 09:29

Ss do not get involved lightly. I would personally contact them myself and say I am not asking for specific info but if there is anything that could be a concern could they please tell you.

And when the mum makes complaints about the father resulting in an investigation where she loses contact and custody of the child is given to the father she was complaining about, doesn't that tell you he really must be a terrible dad.

Bookworm20 · 06/07/2024 10:53

Thing is op, they all start out being so amazing.
youre 9 months in you say?
so of course he is going all out to win you on side and look like the nicest guy ever.
but the history and the friends comments ( and silence) are huge red flags.
what are the chances that 2 exs, have both involved ss? Maybe he is just incredibly unlucky.
But it’s not something you can ignore.
if he was genuinely the nicest guy in the world, surely an ex would be very happy for him to be involved in his children’s lives.
It sounds very likely he may be love bombing you. Has he mentioned yet how you are his soul mate, he’s never met anyone like you, he sees a future with you, he loves you? And does he TELL you he is a nice guy?
in my experience the only men who have ever TOLD me that they are a nice guy are the ones who ended up being far from it.
Because it wouldn’t even enter the head of a decent and nice man to state that.
How does he react when you disagree with him or say no?
mid be treating very very careful and listen to your gut. And from what you’ve written your gut is whispering to you that there may well be another side to him you haven’t yet seen.
the mask usually slips around the 1 year mark. When you’re well and truly hooked. So just watch out for little signs of storms beneath that caring, nice, loving and (too good to be true?) exterior

Ilovecleaning · 06/07/2024 17:55

LegoTherapy · 05/07/2024 11:45

Run.
Don't say BM. Assuming you mean birth mother it's highly offensive. Those women are the dc's' mum.

Why is Birth Mother highly offensive?

Toptops · 06/07/2024 18:06

Throw this one back. Social services involvement twice, both exes mad?
You really are deluded, sorry but I think whoever said your judgement is shot by a long abusive relationship is right.
Please think about your own DC.
I would recommend you take some time with no boyfriend and get your confidence and self worth back. There are organisations that can help you with this.
Until that time, set aside your hopes for marriage/another baby or you risk recreating a very bad situation with professionals being called in because of safety concerns

CurlewKate · 06/07/2024 18:20

@Ilovecleaning "Why is Birth Mother highly offensive"

Because she isn't the children's "birth mother". She is their mother. They do not have a step mother or a foster mother.

Owl55 · 06/07/2024 18:32

Social services don’t usually get involved unless they have concerns ,your dp is involved with 2 different birth mums , unusual that he is involved twice perhaps his childcare is seriously wanting or a concern for violence towards those children/ women . I don’t think you are getting the full story!

Jumpers4goalposts · 06/07/2024 18:38

Red flags all over the place.

MMAS · 06/07/2024 18:48

There are children involved and you want to ignore TWO SS visits. Run and run and run from this relationship. What exactly other than he makes you feel so special do you get from him - at the moment I should imagine massive amounts of needing you and making you feel special. This will continue as long as only one on one. Bring a child into that and pretty sure you will be redundant as will be the child - same as previous mothers.. Why don't you try to get in touch with one of them and have a conversation.

DiduAye · 06/07/2024 18:48

Wake up smell the coffee and realise that some other woman in the future will be getting told how uñhinged you were Dump him Asap