Don't vote reform

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Obviously I can't tell you who to vote for but then there is this:

news.sky.com/story/second-reform-candidate-quits-and-backs-tories-over-racism-and-misogyny-13162247

You do understand that they’re only saying they’ll stop illegal immigration? Farage has accepted that we need legal immigration. So that’s less than 30,000 people per year. That’s less than 100 people for every council in the UK, or about 4 for every GP practice in the uk. It will make fuck all difference to you getting a doctor’s appointment.

Farage wouldn't be renationalising anything. He'd privatise the NHS, make the rich richer and we'd all be more fucked that we already are. You know, just like his beloved Brexit made us poorer. We'd get more of the same - look at his ridiculous, unfunded 'contract' that makes Truss look financially competent.

There was no way that putting up arbitrary barriers between us and our biggest trading partners, increasing bureaucracy and expense, would not have had a massive negative impact on the UK economy. The idea that we could negotiate some amazing deal was always a fairy tale.

I’m voting reform in the hope that the centre left and centre right parties will start listening to the valid concerns of the electorate and get out of their Westminster bubble.

I'm sure that will be of great comfort to all the people who will suffer racial abuse and hate crimes from those emboldened by Reform's popularity if it comes to pass. Like all the people who got told to fuck off back to their country the day after Vote Leave won.

I doubt Farage would have achieved anything better given behaviour as leader of the Brexit party during negotiations.

Plus he has all the principles and restraint of an untrained labrador left alone at a buffet. Remind me, how much does he take from EU taxpayers each year for his EU pension?

That still doesn't negate the fact that they didn't even try to negotiate anything worthwhile. Labour are just as culpable for that too. So the result of brexit had nothing to do with Nigel Farage.

Ummm…how are Labour culpable when the Tories absolutely refused to let them be involved?
Brexit was always going to be shit. Haven’t you realised yet there’s no good Brexit? So in fact Farage bears a huge responsibility.

The result of Brexit had nothing to do with Nigel Farage?
The guy who made his career off campaigning for it, and lied that it would be good for the UK?
It was never possible for negotiators to go to Brussels and come back with anything that wasn’t significantly worse than what we had pre-Brexit.

Yup.

It's easy for Farage to promise unicorns, as he's never been in a position of responsibility for delivering them - much like Reforms "contract" (which of course, is not a contract).

So am I. I hope they win.

I think Friday will be a surprise for a lot of people living in an echo chamber.

That won’t happen, but I’m voting reform too.

They might win a few seats, but they won't win the GE.

When corporation tax is low it encourages large companies to set up in the UK creating so many jobs. It skills up workers too.

During the Labour conference many female MP's were spotted using the toilet at M&S so they obviously didn't share your enthusiasm for mixed toilets.

Who's going to do all these jobs? We have a low birth rate, aging population and reform are massively anti immigration.

Thank you.

Reform will give both major parties a good kicking and something to think about - they can't ignore what's going on in Europe

They might this time, and if they don’t, eventually they will.

The only way out is through.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/gravely-concerning-claims-of-russian-interference-in-general-election-to-spread-support-for-farages-reform-13161235

How anyone can vote Reform with a clear conscience is beyond me.

Racist. Misogynist. Led by the donkey that led us to Brexit and pushed by Putin. Yod have to be very gullible indeed.

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Racist. Misogynist. Led by the donkey that led us to Brexit and pushed by Putin. You'd have to be very gullible “

You’ve answered your own question. Stupidity, basically,

Maybe, these new companies could be encouraged to pay a decent wage and people can afford to have one parent at home again and our population will increase.

Add in the money freed up by not putting up God knows how many people in hotels, and all the other associated costs, there will be more money for social housing, community projects, state nurseries, etc and people will be happier and more secure, therefore leading to an increase in population again.

I don't agree. If you work hard and pay tax on your earnings, then you save, I don't think its reasonable to pay tax on the same money when you die. That's double taxation. I want to be able to leave money to my DC not have the chancellor take it to give it to unemployed people who have no intention of ever getting a job.

No matter what their views, I doubt anyone has changed them as a result of reading this thread.

Corporation tax is 10% in Bulgaria, yet it has the lowest GDP in the EU. I don’t think your theory works.