Sister stole her flatmate’s deposit

[Huhy]

Sister just completed her final year at university in London.

Sister lived with an international student in a one bed flat - they converted living room for 2nd bedroom in Central London. They were friends and course mates prior to living together. Sister had an absolute nightmare with this flatmate but I think it is no excuse. So sister and flatmate got an email saying that only £400 of their deposit was being returned due to the state the flat was left in. Sister left the flat in March, tenancy ended in June. Sister left to come home as she was very stressed with dissertation and exams/sick of flatmate. Before she left she completely cleaned her bedroom. She agreed with flatmate to go halves on an end of tenancy clean.

Landlord came back and said the carpet in her flatmates room and her bed were ruined and therefore needed replacing. Sister texted friend saying well seeing as that is all your stuff, I think I’m entitled to the full remaining deposit. Flatmate said no, we’ll split. My sister was distraught as she took care of her room and the common areas as she knew she needed the deposit for her masters.

When I say my sister lived with a pig I am not exaggerating. Sister sent us pictures of their kitchen after she returned from Easter. The ENTIRE floor in their small kitchen had piled up bags of takeaway bags. It was shocking. Flatmate paid for a cleaner to pick up her shit. The other girl also had difficulty turning off the shower and would just leave it - causing damage to the flat below. Another time my sister picked up a towel that had been on the floor in bathroom for weeks and the other girl replied with “haha I can’t believe you touched that, that was a cum towel”. She would also routinely make my sister go with her to get the morning after pill whilst on her period - always thought she was pregnant. Trust me I know her being a nightmare does not justify theft.

Anyway sister figured out that their deposit had not been secured as she questioned the LL’s ability to unilaterally take whatever amount he wanted. The other girl was happy to walk away from the lost deposit. My sister told landlord to pay both deposits into her account as her flatmate has shut hers down. Well that was a lie.

Sister was immature and rubbed it in her flatmates face that she had her money. The flatmate has gone back to her home country (very well off). I got a message from the girl asking me to help. I’m shocked my sister acted this way, very uncharacteristic. Sister in fact has actually given the money to another friend who was struggling to pay her last month’s rent (I have seen texts and bank statements as evidence of this).

Im at a loss. Pleas tell me what to do!

I'm team Sister.

She's lost money still because the flat mate doesn't know how to look after somebody else's property 😐

But yes you should keep out of It.

This is very simple. Your sister stole from her flatmate. She lied to the LL to get him to transfer money that was not hers. The flatmate or the LL could sue your sister or report her to the police. None of this is anything to do with you or your parents. Sis made a bad decision and the consequences will fall on her alone.

Block them, move on, nothing to do with you. You say your parents are E European but they can still talk to your sister, they don't need to delegate that to you.

Tell the gitl and your parents, it is none of your business, you are not your sisters keeper. Block the flatmate

She’s gained money by deception.

She paid a £1200 deposit, which she got back in full, and she told the landlord to pay the flatmate’s deposit back to her as well so she has another £1200 she shouldn’t have.

Did you just accuse posters of Racist undertones?! Oh do fuck off OP. That's the cheapest and laziest accusation to throw someone's way when they are saying you're at fault for being so involved and you need to back off.

Regards (brown person, child of immigrants who speaks 3 languages).

No, you really don’t.

if this woman trashed the place then why on earth do you think she should get money back.

consider it arsehole tax.

Tell her this is nothing to do with you and not to contact you or anyone in your family again.

Don’t engage again.

Whether the flatmate was a pig or not, your sister did steal £1200 from the flatmate and if it goes further and she ends up with a criminal record that will be her problem.
You need to stay out of it and as others have said block the flatmate.

Yes. I've just read on I literally thought it was just the £400 she had back. Definitely not ok to do this!

MN thinks finding a £5 on the street and not handing it in to the nearest police station is theft.

sister may have been unfair to former flatmate, but that’s Life. life isn’t fair and sounds like sister put up with a lot of revolting stuff.

either way, not @Huhy problem at all.

Mind your own business this is your sisters problem. You must lead a boring life trying to take on hers.

@Huhy if the deposit was not secured properly then you can get 3x the deposit back if you claim against him.

I don’t think your sister has done anything wrong. Stay out of it. Although I would be giving her my support.

Your sister is a thief

End of

She took money that wasn't hers, she knew wasn't hers, and has refused to give it back to the person who originally paid the money

They may be Eastern European but they are your sisters parents and I assume have been able to communicate with her throughout her life. I would also assume they communicated the difference between right and wrong during her formative years.

You have no obligation to anyone to get involved. But you want to be involved, otherwise you would've blocked the flatmate and told your parents to do their duty and parent their daughter who is now a thief.

Seems like a lot of excuses here on your part as to why you can't step back, I wonder if you are all reveling in the drama just a little a bit.
Your sister is mature and intelligent enough to be undertaking a masters, yet she deliberately boasts of 'winning' the deposit by foul means. Her flatmate had already said she was happy to lose the deposit so if your sister had kept her mouth shut none of this would have occurred. She threw the gauntlet down. Tell your parents you have advised her as much you can, block the flatmate and let your sister deal with the consequences that her own stupidity has brought her.

Seems like a lot of excuses here on your part as to why you can't step back, I wonder if you are all reveling in the drama just a little a bit.

Of course she is. Look at the way she’s spoken to people on this thread!

No you don't.

I'd reply that it's not for you to get involved and if she is that bothered she can take legal action against your sister over it