AIBU to vote reform

[MeadowL]

Anyone else sick of the Tories and Labour and will be voting reform?

YANBU. Vote for whoever you want. If you see Reform as a realistic prospect for government, there's probably no hope for you anyway.

At last, a sensible post.

@Despair132 Sources, please.

Same to this

I don't understand why you're asking. Do you doubt that you're making a rational choice? You don't need the approval of the majority, who will profoundly disagree with you.
Farage and his Reform company are full of shit, and no less dangerous for that. So yes, I think you'd be making an unreasonable choice. But that's not anyone else's call to make for you.

Respectfully, it's this name-calling that makes people go the other way.
I firmly believe it was the Remain camp that actually helped secure a Brexit victory!
Wouldn't be remotely surprised if the same happened this election...

The vast majority of immigrants are legal immigrants coming in to work. The ones who are prevented from working are asylum seekers, which is admittedly stupid but not their fault. The numbers are nothing like what you think they are.

Have you thought about why there aren't enough homes being built? It's because the construction industry cannot get the necessary labour, and the reason for that is that Brexit stopped immigration from Eastern Europe. The same problems arise in farming, care, hospitality, roadbuilding, the water industries, etc etc. We need more immigration, not less.

I’m hoping this is a wind-up and OP is being provocative, but the fact is there are people out there who will vote Reform, just as they did UKIP. As PPs have said, the whole point of a democracy is that you can vote for who you like, but that doesn’t make Reform’s views okay.

Reform UK PLC is not going to win the election!

Perfect analogy!

I wouldn't vote for Reform if they were the only 'party' available

Reform say they ''Will stop the boats''

HOW?!!! -TheTories certainly haven't.

People smuggling is too lucrative for any party to be able to ''Stop''.

The people who died appalling deaths suffocating in locked containers or drowning at sea will continue to happen.

Just another Farage Fib, like how they sold Brexit to the voters -and there are more people smugglers cashing in like never before.

NHS hasn't benefitted from '' Millions saved'' by Brexit, either.

I'm fascinated by this one. Farage's answer to the question of what happens if the French won't take them back is to send in the Royal Marines. He admits he hasn't talked to the Marines about that, nor has he thought about the consequences of mounting an invasion on foreign soil. It's basically just a soundbite that he knows he can never follow through on, but he knows that his gullible followers will lap it up.

Exactly this..

We need toxic masculinity to save us from toxic masculinity?

Have you thought this through?

What I don't get is the hard on people like Reform and their supporters have for treating immigrants (legal and illegal) so poorly. It is possible to have a controlled immigration system that isn't dehumanising, inept and inhumane.

I always think it's fascinating that people who claim to be ultra-patriotic aren't patriotic enough to use English language properly.

Everyone's wasting their breath. The OP has surely read their manifesto and seen the countless news articles. If not, she's the only person in the country who doesn't know what they are and what they stand for. It's a democracy and Reform obviously aligns with her values.

Where do you get the idea that the BBC are ultra-left? Absolutely bizarre. They parade Farage all the time and are largely responsible for Boris Johnson’s rise to power.

No, because I don't blame all my problems on people who look different from me!

No, because I’m not racist.

No, because I despise Nigel Farage and racists!

This is the perfect reminder of exactly why we need to stand against Reform.

In my view, they - and the Tories - are weaponising immigration and asylum seekers just like previous populist parties made an enemy out of certain groups in society (as mentioned in the poem you’ve posted). Nigel Farage is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

I’d rather spoil my ballot that actively support reform.

Hell no. I like to think of myself as someone who, if I were a 1930s German, I would have voted against, not for, the nationalist Nazi party. I hold myself to a higher standard than that.

Why would you want to vote for a party whose leader wasn't voted in and whose manifesto/contract was not put to the vote either? For all the talk of "democracy" they haven't shown much of it thus far.