AIBU to vote reform

[MeadowL]

Anyone else sick of the Tories and Labour and will be voting reform?

Corbyn was demonised for some reason, to some end. I don't follow politics that closely but felt something was rotten in the state of Denmark

I’ve reported it but I think the poster is perhaps a Russian bot or someone lost down the conspiracy theory wormhole. No point trying to engage in any kind of proper debate I think.

You can understand why they are popular while still saying they are reprehensible.

Look at Kanye West parading his mostly naked wife like a sex slave, having a blow job in view of the paparazzi. He's not right wing.

People like Andrew Tate are MONSTERS OF PURE INDESCRIBABLE EVIL!!!!! They are like poisonous snakes, except that poisonous snakes are usually easier to avoid.

@Flairswoo are you a woman? Just interested. You emphasised WE earlier which makes me wonder whether you’re a man.

Will you feel the same about Andrew and Tristan Tate if they are found guilty of rape and trafficking? Serious question, the answer matters.

You are absolutely 100% not being unreasonable. I’m voting Reform, my postal vote already sent, obviously not a chance in hell they will get in power. This time. But I think they will do far far better than people are predicting. It’s difficult to predict because a lot don’t voice that they are voting Reform due to intimidation and accusations, so I think there may be a surprise in just what support they have come voting day.

I worked trade Union conferences for a few years.

Whether a delegate, conference coordinator, waitress, chambermaid, bar staff, if you were female and passable you never got caught in an empty room with some of them.

The ugly old ones were the worst. I had one grab my breast in a meeting room. He was older than my dad, grossly overweight with bad teeth. Eugh.

Yes he was.

Tate has openly said he is a misogynist and that women are ‘intrinsically lazy’ and that they are responsible for sexual assault. He has admitted grooming women for his sex webcam business. His own words. Not my projections. He has been charged with human trafficking and rape. Fact. Not projecting.

Are you a woman? Have you really just voted for someone who believes that what Andrew Tate stands for is positive? Do you have daughters? Nieces? It’s a democracy and I’m fully supportive of that but we seriously need to raise the bar on who stands.

I’m stating facts. No rhetoric. From the horses mouth. The charges against him are in the public domain.

The one person I know who looks up to Tate as a role model is currently serving time for several counts of sexual assault and stalking.

Thats depressing.

@Bbq1 It’s very rare for any election winner to get over 50% of the votes. The Cons got 49.7% in 1955. It’s that rare. With Reform likely to get votes, 50% would be historic.

Every time people use this bullying tactic to describe Reform supporters, my eyes roll to the back of head. A bit like, if you remember, when Brexit supporters were accused of the same thing, and look what happened there. Brexit won. I vote Reform. If people want to call me a racist on the back of that, it bothers me not a jot. 🤷‍♀️

Yes; he is. Well, he jumps about all over the place politically, but he's supported Trump, expressed strong anti-abortion views, gone into antisemitic tirades, and even gone on the Alex Jones show expressing support for Nazis.

But yes, not all misogynists and domestic abusers are right wing by any means. But there is a certain type of right winger who encourages and facilitates such behaviour, considers that women should be 'surrendered' and subjugated to men and not be allowed to step out of a traditional female role, and worships tough-guy masculinity. This is less common on the British right than the American right, but it exists and is dangerous.

This is an insane thread. Full of people without critical thinking skills and too much time on their hands.

I heard something on the radio about Kanye playing Moscow soon. Says it all. Arsehole.