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AIBU to vote reform

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MeadowL · 30/06/2024 10:16

Anyone else sick of the Tories and Labour and will be voting reform?

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HandsDown84 · 30/06/2024 15:36

BeverForget · 30/06/2024 15:35

A bunch of pigshit-thick ignorant racists and homophobes led by a chancer who l would sell his own children for a 'like' on social media.

Classy, OP. Classy.

Also quote happy to sling "loony lefties" as an insult, which is code for "People who won't let me be racist in peace".

pandasorous · 30/06/2024 15:38

VoteOutToHelpOut · 30/06/2024 15:33

I bet that's not what the deleted Reform supporter meant, though. Or any of the Reformites who wang on about the UK's indigenous people/natives etc.

indeed. I think anyone with those views should have to do a compulsory dna ancestry test so they get a reality check

Goldenbear · 30/06/2024 15:42

Bringonthesunforthewashing · 30/06/2024 15:18

Honestly, because there is no way I am voting Tory or labour.

lib dem and green are a waste of a vote because they will not get in. So that leaves reform.

I don’t want to vote for any of them tbh but I will vote, I appreciate all the efforts made in the past to allow me to do so

Reform have probably got less chance of winning seats than Lib Dems, spends where you are but I am not sure how you have come to that conclusion!

Poolstream · 30/06/2024 15:42

Give your head a wobble op.
Over 80 years since a world war.
Let's keep it that way.

ChristinaXYZ · 30/06/2024 15:43

MeadowL · 30/06/2024 10:59

A big problem today is that a lot of people get their news from ultra left wing organisations like the BBC and they become indoctrinated and they brand anyone different as a racist or facist.

I think is true. There are certainly problems with some Reform candiates but being concerned with illegal migration or excessive legal migration is not of itself racist. If you want to vote Reform OP vote Reform.

People also seem to forget how many MPs from all parties are suspended or have the whip withdrawn for racisim, sexual assault, threatening behaviour, antisemitism and loads of other things. No party is immune from people with extreme views. People tend to remember the Tory bad eggs but forget all the Labour ones: Mike Hill, Claudia Webbe, Kate Osamor, Conor McGinn, Nick Brown, Diane Abbott, Geraint Davies ... plus Corbyn of course.

KeyWorker · 30/06/2024 15:44

Yes, YABVU.

KhakiShaker · 30/06/2024 15:45

Despair132 · 30/06/2024 12:04

Save yourself don’t make me laugh. You need a man to save you from an aggressive man and that man needs to be aggressive also. Not rocket science but if your happy letting your boyfriend cower behind you when the intruder comes that’s cool hahaha

You must be a troll surely.

we need an aggressive man to save us from an aggressive man?! How about that aggressive man (such as Andrew Tate’s crew) doesn’t attack us in the first place…

Noseybookworm · 30/06/2024 15:47

MeadowL · 30/06/2024 10:59

A big problem today is that a lot of people get their news from ultra left wing organisations like the BBC and they become indoctrinated and they brand anyone different as a racist or facist.

I mean, there's really no point in arguing with this level of stupid 🤦‍♀️

2dogsandabudgie · 30/06/2024 15:48

Globe22 · 30/06/2024 15:30

I was commenting on pay for NHS staff!

  1. Don”t vote Reform

Ok, but the same could be said about the NHS for Labour and Conservatives.

Goldenbear · 30/06/2024 15:51

ChristinaXYZ · 30/06/2024 15:43

I think is true. There are certainly problems with some Reform candiates but being concerned with illegal migration or excessive legal migration is not of itself racist. If you want to vote Reform OP vote Reform.

People also seem to forget how many MPs from all parties are suspended or have the whip withdrawn for racisim, sexual assault, threatening behaviour, antisemitism and loads of other things. No party is immune from people with extreme views. People tend to remember the Tory bad eggs but forget all the Labour ones: Mike Hill, Claudia Webbe, Kate Osamor, Conor McGinn, Nick Brown, Diane Abbott, Geraint Davies ... plus Corbyn of course.

Wasn’t UKIP (Reform) also obsessed with the European immigrants prior to Brexit, so now they have returned to their countries or gone somewhere more welcoming and we still have a very high level of immigration but from countries outside of Europe now so no change at all, how has this been a resounding success for the UK? All something driven by UKIP!

Willyoujustbequiet · 30/06/2024 15:54

pandasorous · 30/06/2024 15:13

there is something so dark and vile about him. every time I hear him talk, I feel sick and reminded of all the men who groped me and sexually assaulted me.

He's vile isn't he.

It beggars belief that any parent of a daughter would vote for someone who's vocal in his support of a man charged with rape.

Lunde · 30/06/2024 15:54

You are going to end up like those people who voted for Brexit as a "protest" and were then shocked to find out they got what they voted for

But if you are happy to be ruled by racists and misogynists - go right ahead

SomersetBrie · 30/06/2024 15:59

Angela455 · 30/06/2024 12:31

Shut the borders, lower energy bills and hopefully shut people like you up.

The post you are responding to was very reasonable and not inflammatory like some on this thread.
Why do you want to shut people up who disagree with you?
And how do you expect Reform to shut the borders? I know their supporters want them to, but how do you see this working in reality?

Flairswoo · 30/06/2024 16:04

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Sparticusoctopus · 30/06/2024 16:04

MeadowL · 30/06/2024 10:59

A big problem today is that a lot of people get their news from ultra left wing organisations like the BBC and they become indoctrinated and they brand anyone different as a racist or facist.

It cuts both ways; A big problem today is that a lot of people get their news from ultra right wing organisations like the Daily Mail and GB ‘news’ and they become indoctrinated and they brand anyone different as a loonie leftie or a woke snowflake.

This election is way more important than it has been in the last 50 years. We are heading for a world war, we are heading for climate catastrophe- food shortages, mass migration, instability, extreme weather - statutory services are on their knees.

We have Russian bots trying to stoke division and create instability.

Regardless of our political leanings we need to do our own research, go to the manifestos, take the unbiased tests to see who fits our values and hopes and most importantly - if anything seems too good to be true or stokes anger, disgust or outrage, FACT CHECK IT!!

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2024 16:05

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She’s ok - a bit gobby but ok, prefer her to many other politicians

Sparticusoctopus · 30/06/2024 16:06

Willyoujustbequiet · 30/06/2024 15:54

He's vile isn't he.

It beggars belief that any parent of a daughter would vote for someone who's vocal in his support of a man charged with rape.

Hear hear. He has backed up Putin, Trump and Andrew Tate. Any woman and any parent of a daughter would be insane to think he’ll be a good leader.

Alwaystired94 · 30/06/2024 16:07

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yes.

Corinthiana · 30/06/2024 16:10

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Yes

NewGirlinClass · 30/06/2024 16:11

The BBC is not ultra-Left. The Daily Mail is not Far Right. Both organisations meet the standards for Journalism.

HauntedPollingBooth · 30/06/2024 16:11

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Yes, me. Came from a poor background, worked her way up, had real jobs. The polar opposite of Nigel Farage in that sense. Also bluntly spoken, which I like. I'm totally here for her being PM one day.

ChuckleMyPeanuts · 30/06/2024 16:11

You can vote for whoever you want. We live in a free country and if the party is on the ballot paper, you go for it.
What is spectacularly naive/ridiculous/bizarre is asking a forum of complete strangers to validate your opinions.
I am not a Conservative, never have been, never will be, but Lord Patten talked so much sense in the week bemoaning the loss of the Conservative Party amid the greatest errors of our era - Brexit and Johnson. I actually hope that they can find their way back to being a solid party again and keeping extremism at bay.

magentarain · 30/06/2024 16:13

Movinghouseatlast · 30/06/2024 10:26

Voting for fascists is not the answer. Farage has already done his best to ruin this country.

This is how extremists gain power, people who don't have a brain in their heads.

You clearly have no clue what a Fascist is

magentarain · 30/06/2024 16:14

Merryoldgoat · 30/06/2024 10:30

This is a wind up, right @MeadowL ?

Are you enjoying yourself?

You really think someone voting Reform is a wind up? Have you not seen the polls?

YouJustDoYou · 30/06/2024 16:15

Starmer, "Well men's feelings get hurt, so.."(literal quote from recent interview about women's rights).
Tories, "We'll do xyz.." don't do xyz.
LIB d3ms - " Women can have a penis/Free Gaza!
Reform - "No more violent boat male migrants who are raping our women/stabbing our men'.

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