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AIBU to vote reform

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MeadowL · 30/06/2024 10:16

Anyone else sick of the Tories and Labour and will be voting reform?

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9quidicecream · 30/06/2024 14:21

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Labour Sheffield 92, a big rally that went very wrong

Foundanotherwrinkle · 30/06/2024 14:22

Pigeonqueen · 30/06/2024 10:30

And what policies of theirs do you support?

Because most of the people I know who are voting for them can’t even name any beyond the anti immigration stuff.

Well, there's the one where he wants to make healthcare similar to American healthcare and make everyone have insurance and bye bye free NHS

Goldenbear · 30/06/2024 14:22

No way, never!

I thought they’d put their tractor away following Brexit, name they’ve brought it back out and are spraying shit all over the political landscape again!

SeriaMau · 30/06/2024 14:22

VoteOutToHelpOut · 30/06/2024 12:47

And when Farage crosses the floor and joins the Tories.

But they might be rather pleased when Farage stands for leader of the Tory party against, say Robert Jenrick, and is voted in by the membership. Labour will struggle to satisfy its supporters and detractors over the next parliament, with the very real possibility of a Farage-led Tory party in charge in 5 years time.
I feel literally sick at the thought of it.

rainingsnoring · 30/06/2024 14:22

@Shakeoffyourchains -just to add, I will be discussing politics with friends/ families and perhaps I may have a tiny bit of influence (or perhaps not!). I mentioned in another post that a couple of my young adult son's friends are considering voting for Reform. I will definitely speak to them if I get the chance, in a totally non judgemental way. I'm interested to know what is driving people to Reform.

justasking111 · 30/06/2024 14:23

greengreyblue · 30/06/2024 10:31

You have a right to vote for anyone you choose. Only you know if their views align with yours. No one party is perfect. They’re definitely not for me though.

This. It's no-one else's beeswax who you vote for.

VoteOutToHelpOut · 30/06/2024 14:23

Reform UK Ltd supporters, why has Reform been set up as a PLC instead of a as a regular political party?

VoteOutToHelpOut · 30/06/2024 14:24

SeriaMau · 30/06/2024 14:22

But they might be rather pleased when Farage stands for leader of the Tory party against, say Robert Jenrick, and is voted in by the membership. Labour will struggle to satisfy its supporters and detractors over the next parliament, with the very real possibility of a Farage-led Tory party in charge in 5 years time.
I feel literally sick at the thought of it.

Yep, that is my worry too. But I have faith Labour won't mess up.

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2024 14:24

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Not necessarily.

I voted that OP was not unreasonable to vote Reform because everyone has the right to vote for the party they want to.

That doesn’t mean I will personally vote Reform, I don’t intend to. Though I do think there are more Reform supporters than you would think based purely on the comments expressed on this thread. I have read that there are many silent Reform voters but I guess we won’t know the extent of this until the election results.

justasking111 · 30/06/2024 14:25

Foundanotherwrinkle · 30/06/2024 14:22

Well, there's the one where he wants to make healthcare similar to American healthcare and make everyone have insurance and bye bye free NHS

Free health care is out the door anyway no matter who gets in. Check the share price of the private groups it's stratospheric.

EightChalk · 30/06/2024 14:25

I'm sure MIL-hating Mumsnetters would love it if the in-laws could press for grandparents' rights, as per Reform's policies...

On a serious note, this international rise of the far right is terrifying.

suburburban · 30/06/2024 14:26

HauntedPollingBooth · 30/06/2024 14:02

@Cooper77 you've already been given the information on how much of the UK has been built on, but this:

My local woods have been hacked down to make way for two giant new estates, and a second huge estate has been built at the other end of the village. I feel like I'm drowning under a sea of new houses.
Has happened to you under the Conservatives. Hope that clears things up.

Yes it's awful

We keep being told we need trees and open spaces to combat climate change

If we hadn't had so much immigration over the decades we wouldn't need all the extra housing surely

I still wouldn't vote reform

pandasorous · 30/06/2024 14:26

derxa · 30/06/2024 14:19

Why add more potential sexual predators?
I would never vote Reform but none of the other parties have my interests at heart.

well by your logic we should just selectively abort all male babies given that 95% of sexual predators are men

Willyoujustbequiet · 30/06/2024 14:27

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Someone can be intelligent and still be racist, misogynistic and homophobic.

It's less likely but I suppose possible.

ToWhitToWhoo · 30/06/2024 14:28

Despair132 · 30/06/2024 10:58

Is it funny you cry toxic masculinity but when you’re in danger who would you rather come to save you a toxic masculine man or a guy who is afraid of violence? The hypocrisy is so obvious.

I'd rather not be put in danger in the first place. And an Andrew Tate supporter is FAR more likely to put me in danger than a guy who's afraid of violence.

justasking111 · 30/06/2024 14:28

EightChalk · 30/06/2024 14:25

I'm sure MIL-hating Mumsnetters would love it if the in-laws could press for grandparents' rights, as per Reform's policies...

On a serious note, this international rise of the far right is terrifying.

Internationally it's eyebrow raising that's for sure. The left have pushed the tolerant middle of the road too far.

Rainbow1901 · 30/06/2024 14:29

Who you vote for is your choice! Why are you asking for opinions? Do you need someone to validate your opinions?
Stand by your values and beliefs and be proud of them. Sod everyone else!

Goldenbear · 30/06/2024 14:30

ToWhitToWhoo · 30/06/2024 14:28

I'd rather not be put in danger in the first place. And an Andrew Tate supporter is FAR more likely to put me in danger than a guy who's afraid of violence.

Yes, I agree, what ridiculous logic; society would be better for women with less toxic masculinity not more! Besides, I don’t need saving by DH, I can save myself!

cardibach · 30/06/2024 14:30

ItWasnaMeGuv · 30/06/2024 13:17

Me. I have already postal voted. Why? It is a protest vote otherwise I would have spoiled my vote. I told my mum and she shouted "oh no" Grin but I explained that I wanted to shake up the system.

I am watching as our indigenous population's concerns are being ignored, ridiculed and shut down. "No debate" didn't work when Stonewall succeeded in their desire to centre men in order to destroy women's single sex spaces. "No debate" causes massive resentment, anger and frustration. Clear, honest talking and working out how to solve problems is the only way to resolve them.

I have got my popcorn out and will wait to see what happens next.

How will it shake up the system? How would you feel if your protest vote was the one that got your constituency a Reform MP?
I don’t think you fully understand the electoral process.

justasking111 · 30/06/2024 14:30

ToWhitToWhoo · 30/06/2024 14:28

I'd rather not be put in danger in the first place. And an Andrew Tate supporter is FAR more likely to put me in danger than a guy who's afraid of violence.

Put you in danger how, with a knife, gun?

oakleaffy · 30/06/2024 14:31

EightChalk · 30/06/2024 14:25

I'm sure MIL-hating Mumsnetters would love it if the in-laws could press for grandparents' rights, as per Reform's policies...

On a serious note, this international rise of the far right is terrifying.

Why does the average 'Mumsnetter'' appear to detest MILs so much?

Ironically , if they have sons, they are likely to become MILs at some point.

Its almost universally wives who detest their MILs, whereas traditionally it was thought to be men who hated MILs...

I think women resent MILs for some reason.

{I'm not a MIL}

GingerPirate · 30/06/2024 14:34

Absolutely YABU for asking!
We all voted Reform here, after a lifetime of voting the Conservatives! 😁

DrPsy · 30/06/2024 14:35

DaniMontyRae · 30/06/2024 10:27

Oh, so you think Russia's brutal invasion of Ukraine is OK?

Aww bless you he didn’t say that though did he? Maybe try having a go at critical thinking and forming an opinion that requires more than parroting faux outrage.

Shakeoffyourchains · 30/06/2024 14:36

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There is as much, if not more, of a scientific consensus for anthropogenic climate change than there is for human evolution or biological sex.

Denying it puts you firmly in the flat earther sphere (pun intended).

derxa · 30/06/2024 14:37

pandasorous · 30/06/2024 14:26

well by your logic we should just selectively abort all male babies given that 95% of sexual predators are men

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Male babies born in this country have documentation. Young men coming across on boats don't. We don't know who they are. I have no solution for this problem though.

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