AIBU to vote reform

[MeadowL]

Anyone else sick of the Tories and Labour and will be voting reform?

If we "shut the borders", who is going to work in hospitals and care homes? How are Reform planning on attracting British people to work in them? How are they planning to encourage British people to have sufficient children to support an aging population, through taxes and working in said hospitals and care homes, without the need for immigration? Lowering energy bills, and the cost of living more generally would certainly help, but how are they actually going to do that? What workable plans do they have that allow them to enact what their voters want?

https://whogetsmyvote.org/

If you answer the questions within this link it will alert you to which party’s policies align most with what is important to you/ who to vote for. At the very end you can also compare exactly which policies do or don’t match with your views, so
if you mostly align with one party but you have any red lines which absolutely can’t be crossed, you can see it clearly laid out.

Yes, I agree that it won't work currently, at least not on the whole populous. The campaign has been extremely effective.

However, what is the alternative? Be rude, patronising and dismissive? Continue to entirely fail to improve normal people's lives as the government of the day? Close your mind to other people's opinions and fail to learn from them?
Hoe exactly are those preferable?

For all the wrong reasons:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/andrew-parker-nigel-farage-prime-minister-english-channel-rishi-sunak-b2570621.html

Reform are racist, but they aren't a party , they are instigators for anger,division,insurgency so pls do not vote for them.

I think my favourite reform voter interview was the bloke saying that he couldn’t get a job because of foreigners, and nothing to do with the fact he was a convicted nonce.

How are they going to lower energy bills?

Every home will be issued with a British made bicycle adapted to transfer energy into electricity. Each home will also have an immigrant assigned for the first 24 months post-arrival, to work the pedals to produce power. While pedalling, they will have access to a smart tablet, which provides re-educational material. After 24 months, not only will each migrant be fluent in English, but they will have read the complete works of Shakespeare, know the history of all listed buildings and have a deep knowledge of Morris Dancing.

It might be a small part of it but I don't think it's the main one. We had Trump elected and Brexit voted for years before the pandemic appeared.

You don’t have an argument, nor have you tried to make one.

I asked for a suggestion on what I should do if I don’t have a man in the home and my home is attacked. I think your idea was that I should contact the police despite knowing it’s likely I would not be provided with a man of similar strength of the man who is hypothetically attacking my home.

You told me you would be ashamed to have me as a mother. Why exactly? Because I don’t have a previously abusive man in the house? You never actually clarified.

It’s certainly not a Reform suggestion that all police officers are aggressive men. There’s no suggestion from Farage that we look at the right and wrong type of aggressive man and promote one type into power.

I will be voting reform and most people I have talked to (which isn't a high amount) have stated they will be too.

There are lots of negative views on MN's regarding reform. There is lots of name-calling and and belittling of reform voters. I take it with a pinch of salt. There is a lot of misinformation being posted as well from people who have clearly not read their actual manifesto but are just repeating nonsense spouted by the media.

Do your research and don't be swayed by the opinions of anonymous people on a forum.

My favourite thing about reform is its supporters complain about foreigners taking their jobs, whilst at the same time claiming none of them work and they're all here to "scrounge" from the state.

Again, this says more about you and the company you keep than it does about the voting intentions of the general population

That says more about your social circle than it does about the likely prospects of Reform winning a significant number of seats.

Of course, it's true that some poorly educated, disaffected voters can tend to drift towards far right parties in the hope of bringing about some sort of change, and it is expected that we will see the impact of that trend in this election. Sadly, I think we'll see Reform winning some seats.

They won't win many seats, though, because the majority of the voting public will draw the line at voting for a far right party of this ilk. And the actual impact of their growing popularity will actually be a boost to Labour because they end up splitting the right wing vote.

That doesn't mean that Reform and Farage aren't dangerous in their own way... we've seen the Tory party lurch further to the right in response to UKIP and Reform etc, and to some extent, the Labour Party has echoed some of that rhetoric too. And of course, Farage bears a huge degree of responsibility for the shitshow that was Brexit. But hopefully, after the election defeat, the Tories will come to the conclusion that elections are more often than not won from the middle ground, and they will leave the far right fringe just bleating on the sidelines.

Yes, there are lots of far right racists in this country, but I don't think it will ever be enough to really tip the balance in that direction in any lasting way. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I have read the manifesto, for me it cemented my view that they were in no way a party I would vote for. It also became clear that the “plans” were uncosted and unworkable.

BBC ultra left... You jest, surely? 😂

You don't think Nigel Farage's comments on Andrew Tate and Russia are concerning? That's not misinformation on MN, that information straight from the horses mouth.

Ultra leftist BBC?? Hardly! If anything it's the opposite

I am to the right of Genghis Khan and I would not vote Reform.

They're all shit but Reform is probably the most shit option.

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if only this was available when I first came to the UK at the age of 12

the boarding school I went to gave me decent knowledge of everything else but left me very much lacking in the morris dancing department. also a compulsory bike situation would have helped with my weight situation.

All you're doing is giving violent, thuggish, abusive men permission to behave violently, thuggishly and abusively. Do you honestly think they'll only act against those breaking the law?

So you're racist?

This is all Reform stand for.

Don't even try to deny it