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To ask who you are voting for?

543 replies

I5itm3 · 29/06/2024 20:35

Labour
Tories
Lib Dem
Green
Reform
SNP (Scotland)

And why?

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bozzabollix · 30/06/2024 09:34

Labour, I want a working health service and for things to stop going to shit whilst Tory donors get ever more rich.

Willmafrockfit · 30/06/2024 09:35

as usual, i have no idea,
lib dems, greens or labour
and it is not a discussion i would have in the office

Onomatofear · 30/06/2024 09:35

Surely the 'squashed middle' need the NHS? I think that people have every right to vote for your own interests but the problem is that the Tories managed to convince people that they represent average, hardworking people. The reality is that only a small percentage of people actually benefit from a Tory government.

AlfrescoPotato · 30/06/2024 09:35

Labour - no. Several reasons but a big one is that they do not align with me on the countryside which is exceptionally important to me.

Conservatives - look at the fucking state of the country.

Lib Dem - couldn’t even tell you who my local candidate is. Voiceless and faceless here.

Reform - Farage & Brexit. Difficult.

Green - a party I have no interest in voting for.

I don’t think I will know until I’m stood there waiting to vote, pen in hand.

bozzabollix · 30/06/2024 09:37

Love how many women are voting Conservative ‘because they know what a woman is’. Yeah they know how to identify the very set of people they continue to do fuck all for, and Boris needs to know who to shag and leave.

anyolddinosaur · 30/06/2024 09:46

@bozzabollix I may vote for the tories because they will not remove my rights, most of the other parties want to make me a "non-man" or tell me to defer to anything a man wants. Fuck that. No party is offering me anything to vote for, only to vote against. So you can vote with your bollocks or for those who value them above women.

To ask who you are voting for?
TheNoonBell · 30/06/2024 09:50

Reform

  1. Reduce immigration
  2. Defund the BBC
  3. End the green nonsense
  4. Depoliticise the QANGOS & civil service
  5. Public inquiry into excess deaths & vaccine harms
  6. They know what a woman is
Createausername1970 · 30/06/2024 09:52

Independent. Good local policies.

ReallyNotTheBestDayEver · 30/06/2024 10:05

TheNoonBell · 30/06/2024 09:50

Reform

  1. Reduce immigration
  2. Defund the BBC
  3. End the green nonsense
  4. Depoliticise the QANGOS & civil service
  5. Public inquiry into excess deaths & vaccine harms
  6. They know what a woman is
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Scary

zingally · 30/06/2024 10:09

Labour for me.

My constituency is a tory stronghold, and might well stay that way, but I just can't bring myself to vote Tory. Never have, never will.
Used to swing between Lib Dem and Labour in my younger days, but now tend to always go Labour.

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 30/06/2024 10:27

bozzabollix · 30/06/2024 09:37

Love how many women are voting Conservative ‘because they know what a woman is’. Yeah they know how to identify the very set of people they continue to do fuck all for, and Boris needs to know who to shag and leave.

THIS.

DontBiteTheCat · 30/06/2024 10:34

Yes the Tories do know what the definition of a woman is. They don’t give a fuck about them though.

Labour are misogynistic? Boris Johnson literally voted against making misogyny a hate crime.

Rape convictions in England and Wales fell to historic lows under this government. In 2022, 99% of reported rapes did not end in a conviction. Ninety. Nine. Percent.

Should I talk about the shocking maternity care, the closure of domestic violence services and refuges or the lack of mental health support under the Tories too?

But they know how to SAY “A woman is an adult human female”, so actions don’t matter 🙄

cardibach · 30/06/2024 10:48

anyolddinosaur · 30/06/2024 09:46

@bozzabollix I may vote for the tories because they will not remove my rights, most of the other parties want to make me a "non-man" or tell me to defer to anything a man wants. Fuck that. No party is offering me anything to vote for, only to vote against. So you can vote with your bollocks or for those who value them above women.

The party who wants to leave the ECHR won’t remove your rights? Eh? How do you work that out?

otnot · 30/06/2024 11:06

bozzabollix · 30/06/2024 09:37

Love how many women are voting Conservative ‘because they know what a woman is’. Yeah they know how to identify the very set of people they continue to do fuck all for, and Boris needs to know who to shag and leave.

There's a big difference between doing nothing to help and doing something to harm. If you're hanging from a ledge and I don't try to save you, that's pretty crappy of me; if I stand on your fingers so you fall, that's significantly worse.

Not sure what Boris has to do with anything, he's neither in the current government nor attempting to be elected into the next? An ex-MP's romantic life wouldn't influence my vote personally, but each to their own! Are you claiming that there are no members of Labour, either current or previous, who have ever behaved badly in their personal life? Presumably if you discover there has ever been someone who has behaved worse than Boris, you will refuse to vote Labour?

GreyCarpet · 30/06/2024 11:06

DontBiteTheCat · 30/06/2024 10:34

Yes the Tories do know what the definition of a woman is. They don’t give a fuck about them though.

Labour are misogynistic? Boris Johnson literally voted against making misogyny a hate crime.

Rape convictions in England and Wales fell to historic lows under this government. In 2022, 99% of reported rapes did not end in a conviction. Ninety. Nine. Percent.

Should I talk about the shocking maternity care, the closure of domestic violence services and refuges or the lack of mental health support under the Tories too?

But they know how to SAY “A woman is an adult human female”, so actions don’t matter 🙄

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I think what a lot pf people are feeling is that, we all know that the Tories are no fried to women for the reasons you give

None of rhe other parties are any better though. Greens and Lib Dems have previously stated that, if you are a woman who does not believe TWAW, they do not even want your vote.

The Women's Equality Party - all women are equal but some are more equal than others (the ones with penises).

I said yesterday that local socialist candidate looked good but there it is on their manifesto that they will promote trangsender and non binary rights and oppose transphobia (they mean women).

I won't he voting Tory and I certainly wouldn't vote Reform and I can understand that people will vote for the other main parties on issues that they feel are more important.

But I keep coming back to how can anything be more important that recognising the existence of half the population? If we don't exist and we can't be named, we have no rights anyway.

This is the problem. Far from protecting women's rights, many of the parties are talking about actively removing them.

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/06/2024 11:09

Brumchum · Yesterday 21:02
Labour. Because I think it will be better for my children and grandchildren. Not me necessarily

Yes, same.

Eviebeans · 30/06/2024 11:12

I am undecided=confused/disappointed etc
i had thought of spoiling my vote as I see a number of other people are thinking of doing
but now think that I need to vote for someone even if it’s only someone where I agree with some of their policies if not all - that may increase the number of seats for parties other than the main two…

NextPhaseOfLife · 30/06/2024 11:13

It's abhorrent that all parties except Conservatives have erosion of women's rights in their manifestos.

DuesToTheDirt · 30/06/2024 11:15

Shakeoffyourchains · 30/06/2024 02:02

SNP. I've no other option as they're the only party trying to remove Scotland from the completely and utterly toxic union.

I'm very glad that Westminster stopped the GRR bill. I used to want independence but I've changed my mind.

GreyCarpet · 30/06/2024 11:25

NextPhaseOfLife · 30/06/2024 11:13

It's abhorrent that all parties except Conservatives have erosion of women's rights in their manifestos.

This is the problem.

Tory policy might disproportionately affect women but at least we would retain the meagre rights we have that protect us in other ways.

But I still won't vote for them.

Jumpingthruhoops · 30/06/2024 11:27

GreyCarpet · 29/06/2024 21:17

Tbh, if I were forced to vote for someone, I would too. Despite saying I won't vote Tory.

For the same reason.

I hate what they've done to the country but I don't really believe anyone else is going to significantly change the other stuff anyway.

But I can't vote for anyone who thinks any percentage of women have a penis.

This! 👏👏

For me, it's also what this rhetoric means on a bigger scale. Anyone who says 'a woman can have a penis' can't then convince me they know what's best for the economy.

So I can't possibly vote for Labour. Nor will I be voting for my Tory MP (stronghold), who made lives a misery during lockdown. He, frankly, can fuck right off!!

#politically homeless

tweezers2024 · 30/06/2024 11:30

Is there a chance that people voting for reform as a protest vote will have the same effect as the Brexit vote?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/06/2024 11:33

Labour

Im not sure the whole being able to identify a woman outweighed absolutely everything else. Especially as Tories have policies that disproportionately disadvantage women.

It is Labour v Tories in my seat so not point voting for anyone else - otherwise I’d consider Lib Dems due to their stance on EU.

Toasticles · 30/06/2024 11:34

Labour.

I work in a role with SEN youngsters. We now have a 3 year waiting list for autism assessment locally. My friend's dad spent 3 days on a corridor in A and E. My son's mental health was destroyed by the Gove curriculum expectations on him, and he's not alone - school "refusal" has skyrocketed. Academy chains with heads paid 100s of K salaries, and "zero tolerance" policies that don't consider disabilities and discriminate horribly against young people. Millions frittered away by Tories on ridiculous hobbying like Free Schools, Rwanda, PPE. The fucking disaster of Brexit. The scalping of local authority funding; in my job I had 10 years of salary freeze and then 1-2 percent offers. In real terms my pay has plummeted.

I am worried about women's rights, but I am hopeful that either the issues will become clear from looking at Germany etc. and I do think that pennies have dropped that some safeguarding in hospitals, schools, rape centres etc is necessary.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/06/2024 11:34

If I knew anyone voting Reform or for George Galloway’s Workers party they would be dead to me - the pro russian stance is utterly terrifying

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