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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask who you are voting for?

543 replies

I5itm3 · 29/06/2024 20:35

Labour
Tories
Lib Dem
Green
Reform
SNP (Scotland)

And why?

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nomoretoriesforme · 30/06/2024 00:33

REFORM

GreyCarpet · 30/06/2024 01:15

I want to vote, I think it’s important but I feel I have no one to vote for.

Unfortunately, I think this is how many people feel.

Very few people are voting with genuine confidence in reality, I think.

OperationGoldDawn · 30/06/2024 01:35

HRTQueen · 30/06/2024 00:12

Labour

I believe Labour will try to make the country more equal, will work better with the EU. I know Starmer can bring some respectability back on the international stage. Starmer has once again made the party electable

I am once again proud to be a party member and I am looking forward to change but know it’s going to be slow

but why are they not already working towards things they say they want to do etc ? surley they should already be trying to do what they can ?

AutumnColours9 · 30/06/2024 01:40

Labour as most of their values match my own. Simple as that.

Shakeoffyourchains · 30/06/2024 02:02

I5itm3 · 29/06/2024 20:35

Labour
Tories
Lib Dem
Green
Reform
SNP (Scotland)

And why?

SNP. I've no other option as they're the only party trying to remove Scotland from the completely and utterly toxic union.

tobee · 30/06/2024 02:18

What @OperationGoldDawn ? How can they do that when they're not in power?

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 30/06/2024 03:54

Jaydafran · 29/06/2024 22:05

Im loving how Starmer has lost voters by going woke around gender issues.

Will you be loving it so much if the Tories get back in and promptly renege on their promise to amend the Equality Act?

ItsAStupidQuestion · 30/06/2024 06:40

I have no idea what to do.

My area has been moved in the boundary nonsense and lumped together with two other areas both from another borough. It's not even named in the constituency title.

Apparently the Tory candidate has been excellent on local issues over the last couple of years, but I have no idea as I've never heard of him before.

The Labour candidate has appeared from nowhere, and social media posts seem to indicate that she has left her partner back in London days after her partner losing her dad and losing a child in recent weeks. No connection to the area.

Two independents, one Lib Dem, one Green Party and one Reform all of which I've seen nothing about and a couple can not even be found on social media so no campaigning.

I'm not even sure how the successful candidate is going to work for three different areas across two council boroughs.

I'm really at a loss.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 30/06/2024 08:18

BeaRF75 · 29/06/2024 22:42

Why on earth do you need to know, OP? You wouldn't ask someone in real life, so why on here?
And it's not as if Mumsnet could possibly reflect the entire country and all 650 constituencies!

I think the "you don't ask" is totally outdated now.

People do ask "in real life"

Freeamigos · 30/06/2024 08:20

anonhop · 29/06/2024 22:54

Interested when people suggest that Labour are for the many, not the few.

While I of course want a party that looks out for the most desperate, when I think of the "many", I think of an average working class family. Parents go to work in typical jobs, aspire to home ownership & to save for a pension (but neither of these things are within easy reach). Drive an old car etc.

When I think of Labour, I think they crush the dreams of a family like this. Help with home ownership, savings etc (which are important for families who aren't born into wealth) made harder. Expansion of ULEZ punishing those with older cars.

I think Labour are more for the few at the very bottom, and also for tearing down those they deem to be "rich". I think they forget about/tread all over the "many" in the lower middle who are just about getting by.

FWIW Tories are no better & I'm not voting, but I find the "Labour for the many" thing rlly interesting because of course they used to be a worker's party, but now I'd say they're not that good for people who actually work.

^This^ Thank you for articulating exactly how I feel.

EdithStourton · 30/06/2024 08:29

If the LibDems knew what a woman was, I'd vote for them.
But they don't, so I'm struggling.

Onomatofear · 30/06/2024 08:31

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 30/06/2024 00:13

The thing with reform is that they offer up a buffet of simplistic scapegoats for people who haven’t had much success in life to choose from as the cause of their failures. Then they offer up policies which will - at first glance - punish those scapegoats. But when you look closer, those policies will make things much worse for those who are voting for them.

Examples:

Reform will force people to accept any old job after two offers. Great, those immigrants won’t be able to lounge around on benefits. Oh but suddenly despite my debilitating depression I now have to work an exploitative low wage job unsuited to my skill set.

Reform will scrap diversity, equality and inclusion initiatives and scrap the equality act. Great, those blacks, gays, and transgenders won’t get special treatment any more and I can have all their jobs. Oh, but suddenly there’s a growing gender pay gap, no job security after maternity leave and now I’m stuffed.

Reform will leave the ECHR. Great now those lefty lawyers can’t get pesky asylum seekers off the planes on technicalities. Ha. Oh but now the Reform government caused me to take a low pay unsuitable job despite my condition and I am being discriminated against for being female, and there is no impartial court available to hold them to account for abusing my rights.

Exactly, Nigel Farage and his dog whistle policies - I'm so confused as to why people don't see it.

But then people voted to leave the EU so....

IGuessIllbetheFirst · 30/06/2024 08:34

I’m another who is politically homeless. Voted Labour all my life, but if they can’t define what 51% of population is and insist on pandering to the extreme views of very few, then I won’t vote for them. Think they will sacrifice women (the biological ones) and our hard-won rights to keep the hard-left in their party quiet once in power. As did the tories on Brexit/ EU membership to pacify their hard-right extremists - and look how that turned out.

The Green party have abandoned the very reason they were set up and have become a trans-activist party - I am especially annoyed by the trans takeover as I work in the green sector. Lib dems are even worse.

I don’t have a Party of Women candidate in my area, can’t face voting Reform.

Staplerandstappler · 30/06/2024 08:39

It’s a free country and you can vote for who you like but I’m genuinely interested in how those who say they’ll vote Reform can square that with their stated policy in relation to the Equality Act, and the implications for women.

Maddy70 · 30/06/2024 08:45

Labour. I like starmer. Hes intelligent. Measured and decent

I also have been teaching under a tory government and seen first hand the destruction of education and the poverty of the children im teaching.

I cant access any support for mental health and social services for those children like i could when labour were last in power

Bellablahhole · 30/06/2024 08:47

protectoroftherealm · 29/06/2024 21:04

I'm voting for Party of Women because I believe in their message and since there will always be a Labour MP in my constituency it at least allows me to have my 'say' as futile as it may be. Will never vote Labour. If there was no PoW candidate then I would vote Conservative.

I'm voting for Party of Women too, and also live in a Labour stronghold constituency.

CeeJay81 · 30/06/2024 08:55

Either Labour or Lib dem. Labour seem too much like the Tories these now unfortunately which is ashame. It's a Tory stronghold here but our mp has been suspended, so hoping enough won't vote for him. I like Plaid Cymru but our local school has been taking over by welsh nationalists, who have helped remove the English Stream and turned it into what they call Bilingual classes, which i am not keen on. Outside of the Welsh language issue, I definitely agree with their polices though.

anyolddinosaur · 30/06/2024 08:59

Former Labour voter who cant vote for them because of their misogyny. Not sure if I can bring myself to vote for a tory and lib dem or greens are more of a disgrace than labour. Reform I wouldnt consider if they were the only ones on the ballot. So it's either tory or spoilt ballot writing in Party of Women.

DoreenonTill8 · 30/06/2024 09:03

anonhop · 29/06/2024 22:54

Interested when people suggest that Labour are for the many, not the few.

While I of course want a party that looks out for the most desperate, when I think of the "many", I think of an average working class family. Parents go to work in typical jobs, aspire to home ownership & to save for a pension (but neither of these things are within easy reach). Drive an old car etc.

When I think of Labour, I think they crush the dreams of a family like this. Help with home ownership, savings etc (which are important for families who aren't born into wealth) made harder. Expansion of ULEZ punishing those with older cars.

I think Labour are more for the few at the very bottom, and also for tearing down those they deem to be "rich". I think they forget about/tread all over the "many" in the lower middle who are just about getting by.

FWIW Tories are no better & I'm not voting, but I find the "Labour for the many" thing rlly interesting because of course they used to be a worker's party, but now I'd say they're not that good for people who actually work.

Agree, am actually exhausted with getting told 'vote for others benefits, vote for the greater good' which actually as pp says is only voting for those at the ends of things, and just fucks over those of us in the squashed middle (and I know how much some on mn hate the squashed middle having an opinion!)

Tortiemiaw · 30/06/2024 09:10

I will be voting Labour as our current mp is both safe and also a very good mp. I've met him a few times, and he actually does care about the city..I have however contacted him on the women's rights issue and am waiting for a response.
This is the only thing that worries me overall.

Junibug · 30/06/2024 09:13

Conservative. Cannot support Labour as a woman. Plus I think they would be worse than useless in government. Utter lack of clarity on their policies and funding. Tories aren't great, obviously, but best of a bad bunch in my opinion. A shit show all round really.

BlueSlate · 30/06/2024 09:23

So many women saying women must use our vote.

And then so many of those are voting for parties and policies that not only ignore our sex but refuse to even recognise it.

To ask who you are voting for?
kirbykirby · 30/06/2024 09:26

keffie12 · 29/06/2024 23:20

@hungrycaterpillarsmummy Labour is not going to tax pensions. That is another twisted lie of the Tories.

People pay tax on pensions already. If you have a private pension on top of your state pension, you pay tax. It's not a new thing. That has always been the case.

For the majority of people on state pension only, nothing will change

I thought there was speculation that Labour will bring pensions into the sphere of inheritance tax, hence "taxing pensions".

HRTQueen · 30/06/2024 09:29

OperationGoldDawn · 30/06/2024 01:35

but why are they not already working towards things they say they want to do etc ? surley they should already be trying to do what they can ?

because that can’t while they are still in opposition …

Moier · 30/06/2024 09:30

Why are people bashing others for not voting for their preferred party?
The question asked who are you voting for..