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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask who you are voting for?

543 replies

I5itm3 · 29/06/2024 20:35

Labour
Tories
Lib Dem
Green
Reform
SNP (Scotland)

And why?

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Adviceneeeeded · 29/06/2024 22:51

The only mp in my area who does anything is lib dem even though its a Conservative area. The Conservative MP does bugger all unless there's a photo OP. I think most people in my area are going lib dem for that reason alone

MotherFeministWoman · 29/06/2024 22:51

EKnaring · 29/06/2024 22:47

Can anyone please explain why Labour are bad for women’s rights? Or is this perhaps transphobia? I haven’t come across any policies impacting women from them so wonder if I’ve missed anything

Because they don't "know what a woman is" unlike the tories who do, but don't give a shit about them and have made many millions of their lives harder.

Ereyraa · 29/06/2024 22:51

Bluemincat · 29/06/2024 22:49

Why do you equate women's rights with transphobia?

Honestly, just ignore these goady posts.

Lilacapples · 29/06/2024 22:52

macaroniandcheeze · 29/06/2024 21:01

Labour as I live in a very Tory area and every vote counts to get them out. And I do believe that overall they will have a positive impact.
I’d love to vote Green but I don’t feel like it’s a wise move right now.

Same as my area. Last general election there were 23 votes between the Labour and conservative candidates.

DogsandFlowers · 29/06/2024 22:53

Reform but now thinking about not posting it in case the right wing think they've 'won'
Not that I think for a second they'd get in

anonhop · 29/06/2024 22:54

Interested when people suggest that Labour are for the many, not the few.

While I of course want a party that looks out for the most desperate, when I think of the "many", I think of an average working class family. Parents go to work in typical jobs, aspire to home ownership & to save for a pension (but neither of these things are within easy reach). Drive an old car etc.

When I think of Labour, I think they crush the dreams of a family like this. Help with home ownership, savings etc (which are important for families who aren't born into wealth) made harder. Expansion of ULEZ punishing those with older cars.

I think Labour are more for the few at the very bottom, and also for tearing down those they deem to be "rich". I think they forget about/tread all over the "many" in the lower middle who are just about getting by.

FWIW Tories are no better & I'm not voting, but I find the "Labour for the many" thing rlly interesting because of course they used to be a worker's party, but now I'd say they're not that good for people who actually work.

StarDolphins · 29/06/2024 22:54

I’m unsure. I care v deeply about animal rights & tories are awful on this (&other things). I also care about women’s rights and Labour seemingly are awful on this. I also feel like LP won’t be much better than tories.

I want to vote, I think it’s important but I feel I have no one to vote for.

Lilacapples · 29/06/2024 22:54

Probably reform.

MayonnaiseOnMyChips · 29/06/2024 22:58

Labour.

We need the tories out.

HiEarthlings · 29/06/2024 22:58

Not 100% sure yet, I'm still researching my options, I just know it will definitely NOT be the tories!! What they are trying to do to the disabled is appalling, not to mention all the other cuts etc, aimed squarely at those who can least afford it. They're not only pulling the rug from under the most vulnerable in society, they're kicking them whist they're down. No guarantee any other party will be any better, but to my mind it's like having a car break down constantly. There comes a time when you have to cut your losses, stop throwing good money after bad, get rid of the car and buy another in the hope the new one might not be as temperamental and costly. That's my hope with a new government....

ilovesooty · 29/06/2024 23:01

I am fortunate in having the opportunity to reelect the candidate who's been an excellent Labour MP here since 2015.

Not only has he served our constituency well, I'm looking forward to Keir Starmer being Prime Minister.

CassieMaddox · 29/06/2024 23:07

Labour and looking forward very much to an end to the endless wittering about how only the right wing (Tories, Reform, PoW) will "protect women's rights".
I don't want to be catapulted into some tradwife world thanks

GabriellaMontez · 29/06/2024 23:07

BeaRF75 · 29/06/2024 22:42

Why on earth do you need to know, OP? You wouldn't ask someone in real life, so why on here?
And it's not as if Mumsnet could possibly reflect the entire country and all 650 constituencies!

Because this is anonymous. It's not rl.

ilovesooty · 29/06/2024 23:12

ilovesooty · 29/06/2024 23:01

I am fortunate in having the opportunity to reelect the candidate who's been an excellent Labour MP here since 2015.

Not only has he served our constituency well, I'm looking forward to Keir Starmer being Prime Minister.

That might have been unclear. Keir Starmer is not my MP. However I like and respect my own MP and the work he's done, and I'm also looking forward to Keir Starmer being Prime Minister.

keffie12 · 29/06/2024 23:20

@hungrycaterpillarsmummy Labour is not going to tax pensions. That is another twisted lie of the Tories.

People pay tax on pensions already. If you have a private pension on top of your state pension, you pay tax. It's not a new thing. That has always been the case.

For the majority of people on state pension only, nothing will change

Parker231 · 29/06/2024 23:24

Lilacapples · 29/06/2024 22:54

Probably reform.

Why?

Porkmarket · 29/06/2024 23:25

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DontBiteTheCat · 29/06/2024 23:27

Labour.

Because who could look at the state of this country after 14 years of those morally bankrupt cunts and say they want more?

Porkmarket · 29/06/2024 23:29

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keffie12 · 29/06/2024 23:45

@Jaydafran KS was not bought up in money. He went to grammar school because he won a scholarship. Uni was free back then.

KS is one of 4 children. They lived in a 3 bed semi. His dad was a toolmaker (no, his dad did not own the factory), and his mom was a nurse. He was born in 1962.

He trained as a solicitor/barrister. He didn't meet his wife Victoria until he was around 40. His wife also worked in the legal field back then. They had their children later in life. Victoria was born in 1963. They married in 2007.

Keir money is self-made. He is not a billionaire, like Sunak, and the main of his money is on paper, not cash.

They own their own property in London. Keir also owns land, where he was bought up. He bought the land for his parents in the 90s. When his dad retired as they started a donkey rescue charity.

People often think he is of wealth because he was made a Sir. He was made a sir due to his work at the CPS.

MiniPumpkin · 29/06/2024 23:48

Labour, quite simply to get tories out

otnot · 29/06/2024 23:51

EKnaring · 29/06/2024 22:47

Can anyone please explain why Labour are bad for women’s rights? Or is this perhaps transphobia? I haven’t come across any policies impacting women from them so wonder if I’ve missed anything

I can only speak for myself but:

  1. Not knowing what a woman is
  2. Not seeming to care at all about women's opinions, despite presumably knowing that very many of us are extremely concerned about finding men in female changing rooms, hospital wards, rape crisis groups, refuges, prisons etc. Rather than listen and engage with us, starmer is essentially telling us to calm down and not worry our silly little heads - he knows best. Despite presumably being aware that several women have already been attacked by males in female spaces.
  3. Having a senior member of the future government state that people concerned about the encroachment by males into female spaces were dinosaurs hoarding their rights. As this man remains in his senior post, it suggests starmer sees no issue with this kind of attitude or rhetoric. Again, despite presumably being aware that several women have already been attacked by males in female spaces.
  4. Similarly, no action was taken against the two men shouting down women (even in their own party!) who dared to have 'the wrong' opinion; one even crossed the floor to glare threateningly at a woman who had the audacity to say things he disagreed with. At least neither appear to be standing now, but that is not because starmer had any problem with aggressive males shouting at and intimidating women. He (as far as I know?) has still not condemned this behaviour.
  5. The ongoing treatment of one of those women (Rosie Duffield). He appears to have completely abandoned her, despite surely being aware of the abuse she continues to receive.

There's more, but it's late and that's probably enough to be getting on with! Like I say, I can only speak for myself and I certainly wouldn't claim that the conservatives are a beacon of women's rights - but I find it hard to see how labour can be considered anything other than frighteningly misogynistic.

TL;DR : The Labour Party has a woman problem - UnHerd

Indianajet · 29/06/2024 23:59

Labour.
I cannot believe any woman (or man, for that matter) could really believe Reform would be good for the country.

HRTQueen · 30/06/2024 00:12

Labour

I believe Labour will try to make the country more equal, will work better with the EU. I know Starmer can bring some respectability back on the international stage. Starmer has once again made the party electable

I am once again proud to be a party member and I am looking forward to change but know it’s going to be slow

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 30/06/2024 00:13

The thing with reform is that they offer up a buffet of simplistic scapegoats for people who haven’t had much success in life to choose from as the cause of their failures. Then they offer up policies which will - at first glance - punish those scapegoats. But when you look closer, those policies will make things much worse for those who are voting for them.

Examples:

Reform will force people to accept any old job after two offers. Great, those immigrants won’t be able to lounge around on benefits. Oh but suddenly despite my debilitating depression I now have to work an exploitative low wage job unsuited to my skill set.

Reform will scrap diversity, equality and inclusion initiatives and scrap the equality act. Great, those blacks, gays, and transgenders won’t get special treatment any more and I can have all their jobs. Oh, but suddenly there’s a growing gender pay gap, no job security after maternity leave and now I’m stuffed.

Reform will leave the ECHR. Great now those lefty lawyers can’t get pesky asylum seekers off the planes on technicalities. Ha. Oh but now the Reform government caused me to take a low pay unsuitable job despite my condition and I am being discriminated against for being female, and there is no impartial court available to hold them to account for abusing my rights.

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