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To wonder when the excess of dogs will die down

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OptimismvsRealism · 28/06/2024 21:47

There's so much shit everywhere

There are so many feral horrible dogs pissing on front doors or prams or shop displays and barking terrifyingly at kids

I am sick of them!!!!! Is this it or will people learn their post COVID lesson and only get pets they can actually handle in the future?

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XenoBitch · 03/07/2024 21:29

EinekleineKatze · 03/07/2024 21:28

I find it annoying hearing grown adults doing 'baby voice' to dogs - of course not everyone does that but I have no idea who does or doesn't when I first meet them - it seems to be quite common, unfortunately.

But that has no real impact on your life, does it? It is just annoying.
That is a you problem.

EinekleineKatze · 03/07/2024 21:33

XenoBitch · 03/07/2024 21:29

But that has no real impact on your life, does it? It is just annoying.
That is a you problem.

Do you ever find certain things annoying? Do you try to avoid those things, if you can? Why can't you accept that some folk just prefer dog free options?

As it is, it's a 'whoever is talking in a baby voice to a dog' problem.

XenoBitch · 03/07/2024 21:37

EinekleineKatze · 03/07/2024 21:33

Do you ever find certain things annoying? Do you try to avoid those things, if you can? Why can't you accept that some folk just prefer dog free options?

As it is, it's a 'whoever is talking in a baby voice to a dog' problem.

Getting worked up about someone talking to their dog in a baby voice is petty.
Yes, you can hate it. I feel the same about a lot of similar things too.
But, it ultimately has no affect on you. I can't want to ban the things that trigger my noise sensitivity... and I am pretty sure you can't either.

Trixiefirecracker · 03/07/2024 21:40

XenoBitch · 03/07/2024 20:35

I have never seen a dog piss/shit in a shop.... not even in a pet shop. Where are people going that they see so many slack assed pooches just spraying whatever excrement all over the place?

I can guarantee that they are blind to the ones that are no trouble. Like I said in a PP.... dogs and their owners are like cyclists... you only notice the bad ones... and then many people think all dogs/owners are bad, because they are the only ones their attention is attracted to.

It’s not hard to notice the bad ones as there are so many, also I find dog-centric people are completely blind to how annoying dogs and their owners can be and just think all dogs are amazing and perfectly fine to go about destroying things, biting people and jumping up everywhere.

EinekleineKatze · 03/07/2024 21:43

XenoBitch · 03/07/2024 21:37

Getting worked up about someone talking to their dog in a baby voice is petty.
Yes, you can hate it. I feel the same about a lot of similar things too.
But, it ultimately has no affect on you. I can't want to ban the things that trigger my noise sensitivity... and I am pretty sure you can't either.

Again, I'm not worked up.
I'm also not trying to ban anything.
I just prefer to avoid places marketed as 'dog friendly'.

XenoBitch · 03/07/2024 22:06

Trixiefirecracker · 03/07/2024 21:40

It’s not hard to notice the bad ones as there are so many, also I find dog-centric people are completely blind to how annoying dogs and their owners can be and just think all dogs are amazing and perfectly fine to go about destroying things, biting people and jumping up everywhere.

I am a dog lover/owner, and I am not immune to noticing badly behaved or shitting dogs.
Believe it or not, dog owners can also be pissed off with other dog owners.

vodkaredbullgirl · 03/07/2024 22:07

It's badly behaved dog owners, who give the rest of us dog owners a bad name.

XenoBitch · 03/07/2024 22:12

vodkaredbullgirl · 03/07/2024 22:07

It's badly behaved dog owners, who give the rest of us dog owners a bad name.

Yep, we can keep saying that until our throat runs dry... but you will always get people who are just outright offended at the sight of dog.

EinekleineKatze · 03/07/2024 22:15

XenoBitch · 03/07/2024 22:12

Yep, we can keep saying that until our throat runs dry... but you will always get people who are just outright offended at the sight of dog.

...or people who have no idea if you are a decent dog owner or not and prefer not to take that risk by avoiding dog friendly establishments where possible.

XenoBitch · 03/07/2024 22:18

EinekleineKatze · 03/07/2024 22:15

...or people who have no idea if you are a decent dog owner or not and prefer not to take that risk by avoiding dog friendly establishments where possible.

Well, I am not a bad dog owner because dog friendly places exist... and you are welcome to fine them.
I hope you find some fab places.

EinekleineKatze · 03/07/2024 22:23

XenoBitch · 03/07/2024 22:18

Well, I am not a bad dog owner because dog friendly places exist... and you are welcome to fine them.
I hope you find some fab places.

I didn't even remotely suggest that you were 'a bad dog owner because dog friendly places exist'.
I know I'm 'welcome' to choose where I go.

Sladuf · 03/07/2024 22:33

EinekleineKatze · 03/07/2024 21:02

Different people prefer dog free environments for their own reasons, so I can only speak for myself - it's the smell (they all smell), the drooling, the not knowing how calm they might be if other dogs come in, the way some owners speak to them/go on about them, worrying about standing on them/tripping over them.....

All of the above and the you just don’t know what might happen factor. I’ve mentioned already about the dog that randomly attacked a family friend, who was sat in a bar quietly having a drink 2 years ago. She hadn’t even made eye contact with it. People will say, “oh it’s a one off” but that’s all well and good until you’re or someone you care about is the unfortunate one off.

EDIT: Following on from a similar line of thinking from one of your other posts above, some might just not want to take the risk of a dog turning on them.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 03/07/2024 22:50

stillavid · 28/06/2024 22:04

Dogs are everywhere now, nice restaurants, shops - it is crazy!

And accommodation. Dogs smell. If you own one you may not notice it any more, but the rest of us do. So no to staying somewhere where dogs have been.

XenoBitch · 03/07/2024 23:30

socialdilemmawhattodo · 03/07/2024 22:50

And accommodation. Dogs smell. If you own one you may not notice it any more, but the rest of us do. So no to staying somewhere where dogs have been.

Everything smells. Smells exist. A dog smell is not illegal.

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 04/07/2024 07:27

Trixiefirecracker · 03/07/2024 21:40

It’s not hard to notice the bad ones as there are so many, also I find dog-centric people are completely blind to how annoying dogs and their owners can be and just think all dogs are amazing and perfectly fine to go about destroying things, biting people and jumping up everywhere.

Actually a lot of dog centric are hyper aware people don't like dogs. And we prefer to keep our dogs away from other people anyway. A dog needs to be comfortable and relaxed around people, it doesn't need to interact (positively or negatively) with every person it sees.

And lots of us have dogs that are trained not to jump up. Are on lead unless in particular circumstances. They don't destroy things outside or inside the home and have never bitten anyone. A lot of us train our dogs so they don't interact with people unless we tell them they can.

As a dog owner, the biggest battle I have is adults approaching our dogs without asking and getting their children do the same. I was walking our young foster the other day and a child was sat in a neighbours garden that doesn't have a fence or front wall. Not their garden. I gave them a wide berth as I was on a training walk. The child jumped up squealed and ran towards the dog and I ahd to step in between and tell him he should approach dogs without asking the owner, calmly. My foster puppy didn't react by straining to jump up, growl or become aggressive. Because he is trained.

My partner had our own dog about 5 minutes behind and the same child did the same again. I would have thought if tbe country had a wide spread problem with most dogs being aggressive or a large feral dog problem most parents would have taught kids to not to approach them. I did with my kids without feral dogs or most owned dogs being aggressive. Like they are taught you dint approach horses or feed horse you don't own.

I would say I also find there's a difference between places that allow dogs and actually dog friendly places. Lots of holiday homes allow dogs but are not dog friendly. Dogs being allowed doesn't always mean it's a good place to dog a dog. Our pets at home allows dogs but I don't take ours because there's a lot of young dogs still being trained whenever I go in. Or there's often dogs looking very uncomfortable in there. It's not ideal for dogs.

I take my dogs to places only if they are marketed specifcally to dog owners. We have a cafe that is aimed at dogs owners. I still sit outside, giving people a wide berth and in 5 years I am yet to see a badly behaved dog or dog owner. Or even dog shit or piss there. But there's still people who insist on going and giving dogs the side eye. Non of which are jumping up, destroying anything or biting people. It is however a great place to train your dog to settle even with other people and dogs around.

We are a dog centric family. Which means we do everything we can to keep our dogs safe, not stressed or put them in positions that could cause them to be unsafe or stressed out. And that means keeping them away from people who don't like them. It means training them not to destroy things, to be calm and so on.

Some people, especially those who rescue, may have a reactive dog in which case the owner may need to take even further precautions and people or dogs approaching them can set their training back hugely. In my experience those with reactive dogs are very careful about where they take their dogs and what situations they put them in.

Shitty dogs owners piss us off as much as everyone else. Thankfully, I rarely come across them.

EinekleineKatze · 04/07/2024 07:29

XenoBitch · 03/07/2024 23:30

Everything smells. Smells exist. A dog smell is not illegal.

Nobody even suggested that a dog smell was 'illegal', but we are allowed to find it unpleasant.
We all like/dislike different things.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 04/07/2024 08:19

XenoBitch · 03/07/2024 23:30

Everything smells. Smells exist. A dog smell is not illegal.

I never said it was illegal, but it can be quite unpleasant for those of us who don't have dogs. A lot of accommodation in the UK, including quite nice accommodation, is being advertised as dog friendly. I simply don't wish to stay somewhere where dogs have been on seats and beds. Yes some accommodation will be cleaned spotlessly, but much won't be. Ps you won't be surprised that I also loathe all the dog poo everywhere. Just back from Germany - lots of dogs being walked - but no dog poo anywhere on the pavements. It is an owner thing including entitlement that their dog should be allowed anywhere.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 04/07/2024 08:38

@ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo I agree that parents should train children not to approach or touch dogs uninvited. I did. Most dogs don't bite, but a very few do. Crazy not to teach a child to avoid the possible risk.

EinekleineKatze · 04/07/2024 08:47

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 04/07/2024 08:38

@ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo I agree that parents should train children not to approach or touch dogs uninvited. I did. Most dogs don't bite, but a very few do. Crazy not to teach a child to avoid the possible risk.

I agree on that front too.
I can't stand owners who don't train their dogs not to run up to people either though.

parkrun500club · 04/07/2024 09:55

EinekleineKatze · 03/07/2024 20:56

This has come up before and it was surprising how many people were finding less and less dog free options in their area.
It might also surprise you to hear that many of us live nowhere near Costa or Weatherspoons.

There are virtually no dog-free cafes or pubs (although you get some that allow them in the garden but not inside).

Restaurants are a bit different.

I can't see why you'd take a dog into a shop. Even if you are on holiday. Go into the shop while another family member takes the dog for a walk or waits outside if it's a quick visit.

I feel sorry for staff who may have worked somewhere for years and now have to leave their jobs because the owner/manager decides the dog £ is key so they can't work there anymore.

parkrun500club · 04/07/2024 09:56

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 04/07/2024 08:38

@ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo I agree that parents should train children not to approach or touch dogs uninvited. I did. Most dogs don't bite, but a very few do. Crazy not to teach a child to avoid the possible risk.

I agree - I was out with a friend and her dog a few months ago and was surprised how many children came up to the dog. The dog is really gentle and placid but you don't know that just by looking at them!

FunkyMonks · 04/07/2024 10:10

Yep we constantly have dog shit on the public foot path to my children's school it's disgusting and it's the lazy owners faults for not pick

FunkyMonks · 04/07/2024 10:10

Not picking up dog crap.

coldcallerbaiter · 04/07/2024 20:34

No, NO! Why have we fallen for this pick up shit mentality ? Why are dogs allowed to shit in public roads and parks full stop? Pick up a smoosh shit, of course some is left.
We are walking around in it…Why don’t humans all shit and piss everywhere and then pick it up? Because we are not allowed to and we have toilets. So why can’t a dog have a nappy or be trained to use a toilet or dog toilet? Or better still, less/no dogs. How low are our standards where you allow shit on public streets and then pick it up? What a bizarre and disgusting way to behave.

vodkaredbullgirl · 04/07/2024 20:41

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