To let you all know :Jane the mntter held keir to acct, brilliantly on radio today and it's viral.

[JaneVapeman]

Unfortunately I can't link to her clip, but she's a star and a hero. She pinned him down and cut through the "twaddle". I am a swing voter and would have been proud of a mntter holding any mp to account on an important issue like Jane did. Jane is/was even trending on twitter.

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Having seen one of these ‘women’ out last night in fish net tights and inflatable boobs, I mean wtaf was he doing? I’m so bloody glad for people like Jane.

I am not putting my head in the sand.
Please do not get personal. I haven't.
I am fully aware of the issues. If Starmer doesn't get in, it will be a lot worse.

I’ve been a Labour voter all my life but I can’t vote for a party that’s ready to subjugate women’s rights to men’s rights. Between them and the Tories it’s like being asked to choose between chlamydia or gonorrhoea.

I think if you want another Conservative government, that's fine, it's a democracy.
Supporters of women's rights they are not.

Have you decided who to vote for?

This is a burning and worrying issue at a leadership campaign.

One candidate has picked up on this issue and he's giving a real solution of how to protect women and girls. This solution is part of it, and maybe needing lots more work. But he's responding to us, he is reacting in a positive way,

On the other hand the candidate is doubling down on "double speak" and Orwellian lies...
And so it seems are all his generals who speak on the interviews. The shadow education secretary looked angry when she was asked about this last week.

If failing to protect Women's Rights turns people off voting Labour then that is on Starmer. He has every opportunity to defend Rosie Duffield, and confirm that he believes the Equity Act needs to be based on Biological Sex. He is refusing to - this is totally on him. Labour Losing Women is entirely his fault.

Not necessarily for women in prisoner, women needing single sex rape counselling, single sec spaces away from domestic abuse, the disabled needing single sex care.

These issues are pretty fundamental for these women

Or any gains under Labour will be impacted by these losses.

So if you do care, at least signal to your candidate that you aren't in agreement on this point.

Did she also hold the Tory to account for their policies, which unlike Labour's stance on transgender issues, are actually shortening the lives of literally millions of women?

Will most likely spoil my vote unless Starmer comes out with a clear statement backing biological female rights including clarification of the equality act. This is a red line issue for me.

I want to vote for Labour, I hate the tories (actually I really want to vote lib dem but....) I just don't have faith in them. I don't trust starmer or rayner. I don't actually trust them to improve women and children's lives because they don't view us as important, they don't see us. We are background noise, any improvement we do see is because it benefits men first and foremost. Women are very much a 2nd class type of human. I want a party that actually cares about us and cares about improving everyone's lives.

Starmer needs holding to account, thank you Jane

'I fear a floodgate will open and honesty will be suppressed' - yes, so do I. Because when you have to defend and promote policies and views that most people are deeply, passionately opposed to, you have to stop them talking about them. We have seen that in Ireland and Scotland with proposed hate speech laws. And I'm also concerned about the BBC, it's significant that the licence fee is up for review. They won't want to offend the incoming Labour administration.

I can't understand the inability to see, if your already vulnerable, in a woman's refuge or disabled or have learning disability... This will put vulnerable people more at risk... Their biggest predators are men!!

Will he undo the benefit cap? The two child limit? Put sharper conditions on fathers paying for their children and harsher punishment for hiding assets/not paying at all? By investing in healthcare, in what way is that female specific? Because he’s willing to lower the time it takes to be diagnosed with gender dysphoria whilst women are still waiting years to be diagnosed with female specific conditions like endometriosis. Everything you’ve listed is not specifically for women’s rights - what is he doing that helps women and women alone?

Is anyone looking at voting for Green or Lib Dem? The Green’s have attractive policies but their stance on this issue is even WORSE than Labour’s. Lib Dem’s looks ‘wishy washy’.

I’m lost in who to vote for. Seriously considering spoiling for the first time ever.

So many of us feel this way.

The tragedy is that Starmer could win all our votes if he backed Biological Sex - but he won't. And for me this is the single most important issue.

@LostTheMarble and no mention of women with pcos, growing beards they don't want or going bald etc to get help. The NHS doesn't support or help them!

You think that women have been treated well under the last Conservative governments?

Yet again the assumption that anyone criticising Labour must think the Tories are great. Yet again the knee-jerk 'Well the Tories are bad too' response. It would be nice to hear instead a response showing evidence of how Labour actually do care about women's rights. Can you do that? And yes, I know the Tories are awful. That's why I won't be voting for them either!

This basically. All starmer has to say is “we will protect women’s single sex spaces and ensure that the single sex exemptions in the equality act are enforced”

thats it, that’s all

it's extremely simple to do

so why can’t he do it?

If discussing Labours policy position on the issue of women's rights puts someone off voting Labour then that tells you its an important issue to that particular voter.

Do you object to democracy and freedom of speech.

Do you think voters should be kept in the dark about Labour Party policies? Is that the only way you think they can win.

Why is it die hard Labour voters insist on telling everyone else how to vote?

Most of us don't feel able to advocate for any party but if Labour are the most likely party to form the next government then expect those of us who feel ignored by them to scrutinise their policy on an issue that's important to us.

Because men. Because what men want ie access to those spaces is more important than what women want.

Starmer, his generals and his double think are alarming people. We are just reacting to that.

@FOJN "Do you object to democracy and the freedom of speech"?
No.

I've never voted Tory in my life, I was planning to spoil my ballet...but I think Labour are a serious threat to our rights so I may have to do what would have been unthinkable for the last 30 years.

This whole thread is trying to put people off voting Labour. It is intended to alarm women and turn them away from Starmer.

If factual statements about what Starmer and Labour Party politicians have said relating to women's rights alarm women, then that's Starmer's fault, isn't it?