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David Tennant: women should "shut up"

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jacksonlamb · 26/06/2024 13:36

As a (now ex) David Tennant fan I was so disappointed to hear his speech yesterday. Whilst talking about trans rights he told his audience that he wanted a world where "we wake up and Kemi Badenoch doesn't exist anymore. I don't wish ill of her, I just wish her to shut up."

(There's some devious doublespeak here: if you wish someone didn't exist, you obviously wish them ill).

But more importantly, how dare he tell women to shut up about women's rights. Yet again powerful and privileged men tell women what they are and are not allowed to say. They must shut up whilst men speak. Their views are wrong, men are right.

Anyone has the right to believe that the rights of trans people are more important than the rights of women (although I believe this is profoundly wrong). What they do not have the right to do is bully, belittle and threaten women who disagree with them; who are trying to protect their hard fought rights.

I despair.

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cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 12:12

CantDealwithChristmas · 27/06/2024 12:09

Just been searching google, twitter, wayback machine and twitter archives.

So what you are referring to is a screenshot made of a podcast KJK did. Some has added text to the screenshot which claims to be the words of KJK. It says: "Each and every one of you women who stand in our way...you will be annihilated."

I cannot find any footage of KJK actually saying those words, nor can I find any indication of who originally made the screenshot and pasted those words on it, claiming they are the words of KJK.

That screenshot was tweeted by a user called TIMB_Tweets on 07/08/23, claiming that JKR supported these words of KJK. I cannot find any evidence of this.

So, totally unverified and dodgy claim with no primary source evidence.

If I have time this weekend (am marching with lesbians at Pride so will be busy!), I'll go through JKR's tweets from August 2023 and see if I can find the original source.

Doubt I will, but always happy to help out a fellow mumsnetter @BoredandLost

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Go to YouTube and put the quote in the search function. I just saw it and she does say it.

CantDealwithChristmas · 27/06/2024 12:13

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 12:12

Go to YouTube and put the quote in the search function. I just saw it and she does say it.

Will do after work. The bit I am interested in though is the original link of JKR endorsing these words.

Meetingofminds · 27/06/2024 12:14

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 12:12

Go to YouTube and put the quote in the search function. I just saw it and she does say it.

And that’s going to the truth isn’t it!! Jesus talk about contortion! I think we all know JK said no such thing.

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 12:16

Meetingofminds · 27/06/2024 12:14

And that’s going to the truth isn’t it!! Jesus talk about contortion! I think we all know JK said no such thing.

I just watched it. I don't know how to link to the video.

DelythBeautyQueen · 27/06/2024 12:17

CantDealwithChristmas · 27/06/2024 12:09

Just been searching google, twitter, wayback machine and twitter archives.

So what you are referring to is a screenshot made of a podcast KJK did. Some has added text to the screenshot which claims to be the words of KJK. It says: "Each and every one of you women who stand in our way...you will be annihilated."

I cannot find any footage of KJK actually saying those words, nor can I find any indication of who originally made the screenshot and pasted those words on it, claiming they are the words of KJK.

That screenshot was tweeted by a user called TIMB_Tweets on 07/08/23, claiming that JKR supported these words of KJK. I cannot find any evidence of this.

So, totally unverified and dodgy claim with no primary source evidence.

If I have time this weekend (am marching with lesbians at Pride so will be busy!), I'll go through JKR's tweets from August 2023 and see if I can find the original source.

Doubt I will, but always happy to help out a fellow mumsnetter @BoredandLost

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So, Bored's honour is yet to be restored...

CantDealwithChristmas · 27/06/2024 12:17

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 12:16

I just watched it. I don't know how to link to the video.

Is JKR on it, endorsing these specific words?

You can link in exactly the same way you would link a webpage, just copy paste the URL at the top.

Meetingofminds · 27/06/2024 12:19

DelythBeautyQueen · 27/06/2024 12:17

So, Bored's honour is yet to be restored...

And it will be a long wait as the internet is a cesspit and not a place of good evidence

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 12:19

CantDealwithChristmas · 27/06/2024 12:17

Is JKR on it, endorsing these specific words?

You can link in exactly the same way you would link a webpage, just copy paste the URL at the top.

I can't do that on my phone. I'll try.

You can also see it all over Twitter. Put the quote in the search function and it comes up.

I haven't seen JKR endorsing it.

DelythBeautyQueen · 27/06/2024 12:19

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 12:16

I just watched it. I don't know how to link to the video.

We need JK's endorsement. Bored's honour depends on it.

BoredandLost · 27/06/2024 12:21

Video of Kellie-Jay Keen saying it

https://twitter.com/i/status/1639773386216751105

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2024 12:22

Meetingofminds · Yesterday 15:26
Kemi speaks for 99% of us! Ofc it matters. We all know what he meant I wish they didn’t exist and wpuld shut up. The irony of him being a man is astounding”

No she doesn’t. The vast majority of women put the trans issue way down their list of priorities, as poll after poll indicates.

A small minority of people with very loud voices and a lot of anger keep it going.

EasternStandard · 27/06/2024 12:25

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2024 12:22

Meetingofminds · Yesterday 15:26
Kemi speaks for 99% of us! Ofc it matters. We all know what he meant I wish they didn’t exist and wpuld shut up. The irony of him being a man is astounding”

No she doesn’t. The vast majority of women put the trans issue way down their list of priorities, as poll after poll indicates.

A small minority of people with very loud voices and a lot of anger keep it going.

Enough women care that men often lose it and threaten, hurl abuse and use violence.

Even if some women cheer them on they must feel threatened enough to do the above.

DelythBeautyQueen · 27/06/2024 12:30

BoredandLost · 27/06/2024 12:21

Video of Kellie-Jay Keen saying it

https://twitter.com/i/status/1639773386216751105

...and JK's endorsement of it?

Meetingofminds · 27/06/2024 12:35

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2024 12:22

Meetingofminds · Yesterday 15:26
Kemi speaks for 99% of us! Ofc it matters. We all know what he meant I wish they didn’t exist and wpuld shut up. The irony of him being a man is astounding”

No she doesn’t. The vast majority of women put the trans issue way down their list of priorities, as poll after poll indicates.

A small minority of people with very loud voices and a lot of anger keep it going.

Clearly you don’t care. So foolish to hand over the only thing that is legally going to protect you and your children, but you do you. Every single friend of mine is all over this issue in real life and colleagues of mine, my daughter’s uni friends are now up in arms about it.

DelythBeautyQueen · 27/06/2024 12:40

BoredandLost · 27/06/2024 11:10

And JKR who agrees that women who disagree with her should be wiped out. SO supportive to women.

Pick and choose much?

This is the claim you made.

A number of posters have asked you for evidence in the form of a link and you have responded by accusing us of calling you a liar.

Are you still in the hospital basement? If not prove you didn't make it up by posting the relevant link.

BoredandLost · 27/06/2024 12:41

DelythBeautyQueen · 27/06/2024 12:30

...and JK's endorsement of it?

I will attempt to find it. A quick google shows her support for Kellie-jay Keen though. Unfortunately lunch has been bought, and I'm going back in the basement and crappy internet again now though.

But, would you care to accept that I wasn't lying about the quote?

PTSDBarbiegirl · 27/06/2024 12:41

Not keen on DT, he's a virtue signaller who lives in a media bubble.

ScribblingPixie · 27/06/2024 12:42

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 11:12

Not really. There are 365 Tory MPs. There's one black female MP. You can bluster all you like, the facts speak for themselves.

Well, that's not true. Where did you get the idea that was a fact?

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 12:42

EasternStandard · 27/06/2024 12:11

It’s women’s rights

Trans is for those with a male focus

She clearly said that she wanted a bar on Trans rights in the Equality Act. She talked about Trans rights. Enough with the double speak and stop telling me what I mean.

Itsprobablynotcominhome · 27/06/2024 12:42

Aside from this trans stuff, does anyone have any evidence to support KB being a champion of women?

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 12:43

ScribblingPixie · 27/06/2024 12:42

Well, that's not true. Where did you get the idea that was a fact?

Enlighten me. How many black female MPs are in the Tory party?

BoredandLost · 27/06/2024 12:43

DelythBeautyQueen · 27/06/2024 12:40

This is the claim you made.

A number of posters have asked you for evidence in the form of a link and you have responded by accusing us of calling you a liar.

Are you still in the hospital basement? If not prove you didn't make it up by posting the relevant link.

I have provided a link to the video which contains the quote I was accused of lying about and having made up.

And yes, heading back into the basement now. At least this is passing the time during a day of quite invasive tests.

EasternStandard · 27/06/2024 12:45

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 12:42

She clearly said that she wanted a bar on Trans rights in the Equality Act. She talked about Trans rights. Enough with the double speak and stop telling me what I mean.

Women are focusing on women’s rights no matter how many times people go on about ‘trans’

Would you have preferred Self ID out of interest?

ScribblingPixie · 27/06/2024 12:50

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 12:43

Enlighten me. How many black female MPs are in the Tory party?

Not sure on your criteria. Do you mean women of colour? The info's readily online if you want to do your own research. But I know Helen Grant was the first female Anglo-African MP - she's been there more than 10 years.

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