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David Tennant: women should "shut up"

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jacksonlamb · 26/06/2024 13:36

As a (now ex) David Tennant fan I was so disappointed to hear his speech yesterday. Whilst talking about trans rights he told his audience that he wanted a world where "we wake up and Kemi Badenoch doesn't exist anymore. I don't wish ill of her, I just wish her to shut up."

(There's some devious doublespeak here: if you wish someone didn't exist, you obviously wish them ill).

But more importantly, how dare he tell women to shut up about women's rights. Yet again powerful and privileged men tell women what they are and are not allowed to say. They must shut up whilst men speak. Their views are wrong, men are right.

Anyone has the right to believe that the rights of trans people are more important than the rights of women (although I believe this is profoundly wrong). What they do not have the right to do is bully, belittle and threaten women who disagree with them; who are trying to protect their hard fought rights.

I despair.

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Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 21:19

Starmer has just announced he intends to take us back into the EU with FOM !!!! Wtaf!!!!!

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 21:20

shit!!!!!!

VeryOldMan · 26/06/2024 21:20

If David Tennant wishes to believe the delusion that a person can change sex, then he is perfectly entitled to and people are entitled to support him.
However, what he is NOT entitled to do is force others to agree to his belief and nor should he insult those who disagree with him.

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 21:20

So Starmer is going to override the referendum result.

cupcaske123 · 26/06/2024 21:21

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 21:20

So Starmer is going to override the referendum result.

Any evidence?

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 21:22

cupcaske123 · 26/06/2024 21:21

Any evidence?

It’s on live TV love

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 21:23

Starm is going to reopen the EU nightmare.

cupcaske123 · 26/06/2024 21:23

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 21:22

It’s on live TV love

So it's absolute bullshit love

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 21:24

cupcaske123 · 26/06/2024 21:23

So it's absolute bullshit love

Edited

Nope Starm just said so love.

LordPercyPercy · 26/06/2024 21:24

Starmer said he wouldn't be considering it, according to the Guardian?

cupcaske123 · 26/06/2024 21:25

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 21:24

Nope Starm just said so love.

Four days ago he said this love:

“We're not rejoining the EU, we're not rejoining the single market or the customs union,”

So he's done a complete U turn love?

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/06/2024 21:29

Are you Kemi Badenoch @jacksonlamb?

If not, YABU.

AlisonDonut · 26/06/2024 21:30

Sending people back to their country of origin
Freedom of movement in the EU

How can both these things be achieveable?

Artesia · 26/06/2024 21:32

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 21:23

Starm is going to reopen the EU nightmare.

Probably decided it's less controversial than trying to claim men can have a cervix/women can have a penis....

DramaLlamaBangBang · 26/06/2024 21:34

AlisonDonut · 26/06/2024 21:30

Sending people back to their country of origin
Freedom of movement in the EU

How can both these things be achieveable?

As KS pointed out, legal migration has gone through the roof from outside the EU. We clearly need migrants to live and work here, otherwise the ' points based immigration system' wouldn't have increased migration tenfold. EU migrants came here for a few years, worked and went home, were young and didn't bring their families over.

MeinKraft · 26/06/2024 21:36

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 21:20

So Starmer is going to override the referendum result.

No he isn't, stop telling lies. He said he thought we could have had a better deal. The cat in my back garden thinks the same.

CareerChange24 · 26/06/2024 21:48

bluebeck · 26/06/2024 13:37

So he didn’t say “women” should shut up.

Just one specific woman.

And any woman that therefore agrees with her

paperrocksiscissors · 26/06/2024 21:49

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 19:13

Well they didn’t get us into billions of pounds worth of debt, and spent ten years paying off Labours vanity projects! Incredibly people have very short memories of those times.

Looks like exactly the same will happen again too.

Yes, the last 14 years have been a masterclass in good goverment and non-corruption...must be why the Tories are heading for another victory...oh wait..

The Tory membership will never vote for her anyway, as most of them are reactionary, old and hideously racist, they'd go to Farage over her ( and most of them already have ) the only Tories left are ones actually somewhere near the centre and she's too populist for them.

Glengarrybell · 26/06/2024 21:50

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 21:19

Starmer has just announced he intends to take us back into the EU with FOM !!!! Wtaf!!!!!

Tragically he didn’t, where did you get this?

dessyh · 26/06/2024 21:58

With two MPs killed by extremists in the past eight years, it's something for an influential white man to publicly voice his desire for a black woman politician to 'not exist'.

He comes across as a bit unpleasant and thick and preoccupied with how his kid being trans impacts his image. Had never read about him enabling the flasher or pisstaking deaf people but it tracks.

Riversideandrelax · 26/06/2024 22:01

That leaves a bad taste in my mouth. How about the men shut up for once and listen?

Iaminthefly · 26/06/2024 22:13

I also wish Badenoch would shut up. She is vile.

He did not say women should shut up. He said one woman should. Don"t twist his words.

Effiebreast · 26/06/2024 22:17

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 20:16

I fear the publics reaction when they see Labour actually makes things even worse. Genuinely there isn’t the money for the ‘changes’ they promise.

Why ? 😂

Effiebreast · 26/06/2024 22:18

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 21:24

Nope Starm just said so love.

You truly do speak bollocks.

Acapulco12 · 26/06/2024 22:27

Onedayatatime22 · 26/06/2024 13:41

You're twisting this - it's one woman... one woman with some very extreme and unpleasant views.

Exactly!

It’s not because she’s a woman, or black, or because she worked her way up through lots of difficult jobs to get to where she is that David Tennant mentioned her. It’s because she says quite a lot of really unpleasant and untruthful things that inflame the debate around human rights (not just trans rights, but race as well).

I agree with David Tennant on this, personally. He was obviously being humorous/tongue-in-cheek when he talked about wanting her to ‘disappear’, obviously, so I don’t think we need to read much into that or that there’s any ‘double-speak’ there.

In fact, I think it’s irrelevant that he happens to be a white man and she happens to be a black woman.

I admire how hard Kemi Badenoch has worked to get to where she is now, but I can’t think of any useful or practical things she has said or done whilst she has been in government.

In fact, she will often say very offensive things and she will claim she has a right to say them because she is from an underrepresented background, as a black woman (just like what Suella Braverman does too).

Both KB and SB also come across as very disingenuous, because they are now equally as privileged as someone like David Tennant, yet they constantly use their backgrounds to claim they have no privilege.

I think this is exactly what David Tennant was calling out, and I’m glad he did.

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