David Tennant: women should "shut up"

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As a (now ex) David Tennant fan I was so disappointed to hear his speech yesterday. Whilst talking about trans rights he told his audience that he wanted a world where "we wake up and Kemi Badenoch doesn't exist anymore. I don't wish ill of her, I just wish her to shut up."

(There's some devious doublespeak here: if you wish someone didn't exist, you obviously wish them ill).

But more importantly, how dare he tell women to shut up about women's rights. Yet again powerful and privileged men tell women what they are and are not allowed to say. They must shut up whilst men speak. Their views are wrong, men are right.

Anyone has the right to believe that the rights of trans people are more important than the rights of women (although I believe this is profoundly wrong). What they do not have the right to do is bully, belittle and threaten women who disagree with them; who are trying to protect their hard fought rights.

I despair.

I think Tennant was clumsy but ultimately has a point

That KB shouldn’t exist? That he dreams of waking up and her not existing? That he doesn’t agree with free speech - well, at least not for women?

And no, he wasn’t clumsy, he was vicious.

Some people will be but you said most and you can't evidence that it's most and not just some.

And Labour don’t get the moral high ground on this issue.

They have their act together on this issue. Woman need to shut up and share!
The Equality act is working according to Labour.🤯 and they have said it doesn’t need changing.

Look around, it isn’t!!!

Labour want women to worry about stuff that affects others more because our rights are a non issue apparently.
51% of the population and they just don’t care!!

Anyone who wants equal rights doesn’t vote on a wing and a prayer

@ova I agree that they’ve had time to prepare. It’s disappointing.
I don’t think they should get lumped in with the Tories though. Even when they were last in power they weren’t has bad as this lot.

Whereas in Tory Britain only the 1% matter right ?

Starting this by saying that I totally agree women need safe spaces.

But, someone can be vile and have some views that you agree with.

Two things can be true at once. And a stopped clock is right twice a day.

People aren't saying otherwise.

However, David attacked Kemi on the basis of her stance on gender, not on any of her other views.

So deviating from that has been frustrating.

On this issue, Tennant is a wrong'un.

Lets see

Tony Blair :

Initiated PFI contracts into the NHS
Started University Tuition Fees
Iraq War
Failed to deliver on special schools he had promised to build

Gordon Brown

Sold off Forests and our gold stock.

I have my own issues with the Tories, not saying they are angels.

But I think because it has been so long, that people have forgotten Labour's flaws.

Why is it top of trending if most people don't come on these threads then?

Why does it have about ten times as many votes as other AIBUs that started at a similar time today?

I wondered if they were learning about it in school.

May well be but they delivered on lots other things.
Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.

1. Low mortgage rates.
2. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
3. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
4. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
5. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
6. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
7. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
8. Employment is at its highest level ever.

10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries. 11. 85,000 more nurses. 12. 32,000 more doctors. 13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards. 14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament. 15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly. 16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time. 17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice. 18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year. 19. Restored city-wide government to London. 20. Record number of students in higher education. 21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997. 22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres. 23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission. 24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s. 25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions. 26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland. 27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants. 28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday. 29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty. 30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty. 31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents. 32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships. 33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard. 34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997. 35. Banned fox hunting. 36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution. 37. Free TV licences for over-75s. 38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals. 39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70. 40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s. 41. New Deal - helped over 1.8 million people into work. 42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started. 43. Free eye test for over 60s. 44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships. 45. Free entry to national museums and galleries. 46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled. 47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000. 48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent. 49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds. 50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

Typical inflammatory response with no backing from their manifesto.
Also
Think you’re forgetting at the very least the 51% the Conservatives are supporting who have been abandoned by Labour, Libdems and Greens

How has the Tory government done with levelling up ? Northern power house ?

Whoever is in will be facing a different reality

Hence the IFS talking about conspiracy of silence over spending cuts and higher taxes

Very different time to when Labour were last in

And no PFI moving debt off books

Just a reminder to everyone that there's other options aside from Tory or Labour.

@EasternStandard well yes. And hopefully folk will give them a chance. None of this short-termism that stops governments making big transformative policies.

@Effiebreast You can add Sure Start to that list. The Tories scrapped it, and the outcome was so bad they are going to start them up again.

The policies so far are very small fry and possibly damaging, the two taxes they are introducing will shift behaviour, likely not in a beneficial way

If they want to sell in bigger ways to fix things I have a few I’d like to hear about.

I would like thid entirely fact checked with links to each one. Does not look remotely familiar to me.

Sadly women’s safety and rights are nowhere to be seen on the Labour manifesto.

They took us to war which they lied over and people died.!!!!

Id love to see the figures on how all that has affected the budget
because last time they were in Government they left the country in poverty
They have no idea how to manage anything

Money doesn’t grow on trees and when the electorate wise up they’re out and the Conservatives have to pick up the pieces and are seen as ‘the bad guys’ when they have to cost cut.

And as this is a thread about woman's rights

They have No idea about woman’s rights.

apologies for the derail away from the issue OP !

Exactly.

Labour don’t give a toss about women.

Reform say they will ban trans ideology - before you pile in - this fear of putting your head above the parapet is very real - whether it be GC views - which way you vote - Israel - Immigration, you name it and you might get threatened and abused - the silent majority are having a real dilemma at the moment - I think both parties need a good kicking, they aren't listening

I find the GC women on here and their support for the Sainted Kemi very amusing.

Her voting record is here: https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/25693/kemi_badenoch/saffron_walden/votes#home

Lots of things she scuppered which adversely affect women. But no, she's golden.

I'm with David Tennant on this one.

In terms of womens rights there’s only Reform and they want to take away Trans rights which should never be a fall back. Unless you’ve got a lovely caring Independent who can stand up to the ‘shut up it’s my way or no way’ Labour stance on this subject.

Women need a strong voice in Parliament