David Tennant: women should "shut up"

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As a (now ex) David Tennant fan I was so disappointed to hear his speech yesterday. Whilst talking about trans rights he told his audience that he wanted a world where "we wake up and Kemi Badenoch doesn't exist anymore. I don't wish ill of her, I just wish her to shut up."

(There's some devious doublespeak here: if you wish someone didn't exist, you obviously wish them ill).

But more importantly, how dare he tell women to shut up about women's rights. Yet again powerful and privileged men tell women what they are and are not allowed to say. They must shut up whilst men speak. Their views are wrong, men are right.

Anyone has the right to believe that the rights of trans people are more important than the rights of women (although I believe this is profoundly wrong). What they do not have the right to do is bully, belittle and threaten women who disagree with them; who are trying to protect their hard fought rights.

I despair.

Schools have been filling kid's heads with absolute nonsense under Kimi's party. That's probably where they're getting it from.

Tennant is an odious man and his views on the position of Equalities Minister not existing doesn't even make sense.

Even with an Equalities Minister, even with the Equality Act - he can carp on about ''common decency'' but legislation helps protect the vulnerable.

Advocating for those hard legislative protections to no longer be in place and allowing the truly vulnerable to rely on the mercy of others, is mind boggling.

Not least of which because of that allegedly oppressed community he is so ardently a supporter for.

If no Equalities Minister existed, what would happen to this allegedly vulnerable demographic?

Nah I'm sick of TRA shite and TRA inconsistencies. Make it make fucking sense and stop allowing white MEDIOCRE men gleefully tear down women.

@EasternStandard which people ? Echo chamber on MN ?

What are your great hopes for Labour?

Any statements they can commit to yet

Not really, as I work in the media.
But yeah I am quite focused on my own (formerly Tory) constituency and what people are voting for here. Obviously I don't know what every single person in the UK thinks, nobody does, but there's loads of data available that profiles the UK and shows what's cutting through with voters.

Deal with the issue at hand. This Trojan horse came in under the Tories.

She’s a wealthy and privileged woman of colour isn’t she ? Not exactly brought up on the streets. And she has very dodgy scruples. Didn’t she try to hack another MPs computer or something ? Got caught ?

It's perfectly obvious that this has precisely zero to do with her colour. Claiming racism where you know perfectly well that it does not exist is pretty objectionable.

Harriet Harman.

Yup. That’s it. As corrupt and underhand as the rest of them but is GC so that’s ok.

Does no one read anything bar The Guardian and pro Labour threads.

You really think only mn is talking about this right now?

Do you also not listen to any radio

You do you obvs, I can’t say I give a crap but blocking out everything doesn’t mean it’s not there

Did you miss the GRA in 2004?

Even Tom Swarbrick on LBC who’s an ex Cameron SPAD thinks she’s just as bad as Tennant and thinks this is very much an own goal on her part.

Dissidents in the ranks?

No because, see, we GC, WC women of colour don't employ an ideological whip on each other. We have a multiplicity of opinions. Thus we don't think in terms of 'dissidents' like Stalin era Russia or Mao-ist China.

Does the report refer to all gay men?

It encompassed the UK only and appeared in about 2022 I think.

So absolutely no evidence to back up your claims?

Eyes = observation = empirical evidence. Likewise, not many working class peoplpe get invited to celebrity back slapping shindigs sponsored by the money laundering, modern slavery excusing HSBC, as this one was. So that's pattern recognition = empirical evidence. I know there's a school of thought in marxist and marxist-progressive circles that empiricism is a tool of imperialist capitalist supremacy and we should ignore observation in favour of whatever Ta-Nehisi Coates has told us to think that week, but personally I prefer the real world.

Tennant doesn't come from a privileged background.

Hmmmm cos his Wikipedia page has his dad as a minister (social capital) and himself as a grammar school attendee which makes him solidly lower to middle middle class especially in presbyterian scotland, and then he went into acting and became rich, and is now, undeniably, posh and privileged.

@cupcaske123 schools are mostly led and staffed by left wingers though. When government released new guidance recently re trans nonsense, many teachers stated that their schools world simply ignore
the guidance. They don't think about the safeguarding side of it at all. They're more bothered about performing what they see as their progressive credentials whilst colluding in the serious irreparable harm of children.
It's an ongoing scandal.
And yes. children of 9 don't know what nonbinary is unless it's been talked about and encouraged at school or
home or both.

How is a man saying he wished she didn't exist and would shut up, a failing of the woman?

Tom is an idiot.

I agree with the OP. Tennant is a fool and a cunt.

Most HoC votes are whipped, so the voting I along party lines agreed in advance rather than a free vote. I haven't got time to check all these, but how many of them are votes where Kemi Badenoch has taken a harder line than all the other Conservative MPs? If she's voted in line with party policy it's hardly surprising, and - unless you're a Tory as well - that you'd be opposed to the position she's taken.

Succinctly put! 😂

Leaving the EHCR, for one. She and her colleagues only want to do this so that they can force through the ridiculous and inhumane Rwanda nonsense. Pushing for us to give up the rights and protections that we put in place under Churchill just to save their worthless political skins is pretty extreme and unpleasant.

Silly me! The Tories can't change legislation when they're in power. Why didn't I think of that??

Ha that’ll do

Love the GCs scrabbling for a few extra votes. Most folks have made their minds up. Randoms on here won’t change minds with Gotchyas.
Even if the tories do win the next election, I think they’ll be very sadly disappointed with future legislation.

Better than being a racist eh ?

You really must love Labour to not blame them for bringing in the worst piece of legislation for some time and to also look
at the mess they’re getting on to with false statements on where men with GRCs can be

Go for it. Big up gender as you will