To think that the majority of trans people are neurodivergent

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...and I sort of think it's a form of neurodivergence in itself.

By the way I'm trans affirmative.

I don't think I've met a trans person who I thought was neurotypical.

This

@Teacherprebaby i am gay and was on the scene in the 90s. I’ve had all the education I need on this topic, thanks

And many regard in a negative sense, especially if they had that term thrown at them while being punched, spit on and otherwise abused. Surely the only people who should be able to reclaim that nasty word as their own would be the people it was targeted at. Otherwise it's spicy straights appropriating it. Gay appropriation with a nasty twist.

It seems to me that many people are almost desperate to force their way into "queerness". People with fetishes, people who practice non-monogamy, those who identify as "pansexual", and everybody else who either has their own flag or is pushing their way onto the pride flag. To be "queer" is to identify as a little edgy.

My colleague introduced herself as queer at our away day last week. No one batted an eyelid. Commonly used in my workplace (charity sector)

@Gruttenberg exactly.

All you mean here is no one said anything.

It does to those who were abused by people screaming it at them. Educate yourself.

I think so too. I think it’s down to not feeling you fit in anywhere, trying to work out who you are and the fact it’s being thrust upon young people too.

This is definitely true of 2 of the 3 trans people I know. The third I haven't known as long, so I can't comment on that one.

@Maternityleavelady I’m sorry your workplace has normalised homophobia 🤷🏽‍♀️

Silence is not agreement.

That's interesting and makes sense. Although, would that mean that ADHD should become ADHC?

I genuinely thought transgender and transsexual was all the same thing. I say trans sexual, I didn't realise this was offensive.

As I understand it, a transsexual is someone who was diagnosed with gender dysphoria and wants to appear as the opposite sex. Seem to be less involved in gender ideology and recognise their biological sex.

A transgender person is literally anyone who says they're something else.

People still go by transsexual, but transgender is more common now.

So a certain group is pushing a change of definition on everyone.

I can't say that I am surprised. They have tried it before.

I very strongly think most are old fashioned gay.

What is your source for this data?

I would have guessed charity sector.

She means by being abused they want to disassociate from their own being, by being another person.

young TM & TW yes I’d agree

late transitioning middle aged men?? Nope very much inhabitants of Malaga airport

Yeah this. I've just found out in AuDHD and I hated puberty. I remember hysterically begging my Mum to let me have my uterus removed when I was 13 so didn't have to continue having periods. I was very much a Tom Boy as a kid and remember being really distressed as a mid-teen thinking I was a lesbian. I loved (and still love) wearing men's clothes. I felt so so 'other' and had no way of knowing why. I have no doubt I could have turned towards identifying as transgender had I been going through my teens in 2021 instead of 2001.

Or the Arts...

@QueenBodicea yes good point ref ADHD. I think my sons identity is very much wrapped up in being Autistic so we discuss him as being Autistic not having it. We don't really discuss ADHD in the same way. Although I'd say his life is definitely more ' disordered' by the struggles of ADHD!
Interestingly, my son doesn't mention any concern ref ADHD definition as much

female actors who’ve never dated anyone other than men but describe themselves as NB or queer seem to be a thing

especially if they come from a privileged background and are called Emma

@Otherstories2002 oh dear, that's not going to go down well 🤦‍♀️