Starmer, JKR, what's most important to most women?

[PupInAPram]

In my more than 60 years, decades of being a single working parent, many experiences of being on the bones of my arse, Labour Party policies have made huge beneficial differences in my day-to-day life. Worrying if there is a man in the next toilet or feeling uncomfortable with a trans woman has literally never been on my radar. If I'm making a decision about voting for the politician who can bring about the greatest good for the greatest number, it's Starmer every time. I wish JKR would just pipe down.

In what way are they women?

Do we?

If I go into a women's space that I expect to be single sex and I see a man in a dress there, how the hell am I supposed to know if he's a predator or genuinely has a special gender identity? Leaving aside the fact that both could be true at once.

Single sex spaces are that way for a reason. There is no reason to group people together on the basis of their gender identities. Someone's gendered feelings should not determine their sport category, hospital ward, prison, or changing room, because those things are single sex. Not gender. They are separated because in those contexts, the reality of sexed bodies is what matters. Not how feminine someone may or may not feel.

They didn’t need to join to destroy it. As soon as the policy was brought in, women left because the reason they had join - requiring a women only space- had disappeared without any consultation.

I have lesbian friends that run lesbian only walking groups and the like. TW have joined them and again, women leave because the contract, that this is a space for lesbian, is broken.

Let’s be clear, this is not about the transness of these people, it’s their maleness that women object to in their formerly female only spaces.

Can you tell the difference between a good man and a bad man? No of course not.

Which is why we need female only spaces where no men are allowed, for the safety, privacy and dignity of women and girls.

No men. Not a single one, whatever they call themselves, however they dress. And transwomen are men - male at conception, male their entire lives. Because humans cannot change sex, any more than any other mammal.

And that's great, until you have to go into hospital and find yourself sharing a bay with the 'wrong kind of transwoman' (Isla Bryson for example) or arrive for your smear or mammogram to find an obvious 'man in a dress' with no understanding of or empathy for how vulnerable women can feel in those settings because they're not a woman, which is precisely why those procedures have historically been performed by female staff or at least chaperoned by one. In the current climate you could potentially be accused of transphobia for requesting a female chaperone in these circumstances because we're all supposed to go along with the fallacy that 'transwomen are women'. Just because this shit hasn't touched you yet don't assume it won't, you've just been lucky so far.

@CassandraWebb
I agree, this just really isn't the biggest electoral issue and I am tired of it being seen as more important than things like the environment and child poverty.

Why are women's rights and safeguarding being linked to those other issues? ''Accept this or we won't fix that'' is not politics, its abuse.

In what way are they not?
Think, feel and look like a woman.
Without peeking into their undies like a weirdo, you wouldn’t know.

Well said.

We know, darling....
We know.

I'm just saying that on balance, damaging Starmer's chances of getting a majority will be more harmful to most women in many more areas of life than not.

It would be very easy for Starmer to clarify his position though wouldn't it, its not difficult to say that biological sex should always take precedence over gender in certain specific situations and that having a GRC will not override those situations.

“Think, feel and look like a woman”

So if I think, feel and look like a cat, am I a cat?

Women is the noun for adult human females. TW are male.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/there-no-legal-bars-woman-10297113
Like this lesbian trans women.

You wouldn't see a man in a dress. Because that’s not what trans women look like!!

This^^

Pipe down yourself. I didn't disagree with you till then

You think that corrupt liar Starmer will bring good? He's intent on imposing tory policies under a different name. Has he made a pledge he hasn't broken yet?

They cannot feel like a woman, being male.

They can only imitate their idea of a woman.

I work with a TW, he looks exactly like a man in a dress, except when he's wearing a hoodie, then he looks like a man in a hoodie.

Elizabeth Fry campaigned for single sex prisons 200 years ago because female prisoners were subjected to male violence in mixed sex prisons. JKR is campaigning for the same thing, do you really think she should pipe down? It is shameful that so called progressive politicians can't see this is a basic human rights (women's rights) issue that is very easy to solve and shouldn't have become an election issue.

The Labour party are far more likely to protect women from violent men in the most practical of ways though. A multi millionaire shouting on twitter won't keep me safe from violent men.