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newdater32 · 22/06/2024 00:45

So I've been talking to a guy I met through an online dating app. We've been on one date and due to meet again next weekend. We've been talking everyday and have had a 2 hour phone conversation tonight. He's ticked all my boxes and seems great.

Tonight he's revealed that he has had a one on one with a guy to experiment to see if he liked it. He said he wasn't satisfied and that he's not gay, but wouldn't be against it if he was in a group situation and the other guy was bi.

This has completely turned me off him. It was like a switch turned off completely in me. I'm not homophobic, but just was not expecting this.

Am I being unreasonable here? Is there something wrong with me? Am I wrong?

OP posts:
mummyrolling2014 · 22/06/2024 21:41

Move on as it will always be there in your mind. You can't 'unread that' as it clearly does affect you. He seems quite experimental so doubt he's the commitment type anyway.

DoreenonTill8 · 22/06/2024 21:52

Jengat · 22/06/2024 21:31

Bigoted, homophobic, prejudiced, closed minded - all words used on the thread. Words that are weaponised in this day and age to make people fall sharpley into line lest they be seen as a "bad person". People - women in particular - may be guilted into ignoring their intuition/beliefs when these words are pulled out and used against them. For some, the social pressure is too difficult to withstand.

Absolutely, all this used by those proudly advocating how they forcibly break through the cotton ceiling and force/shame lesbians into accepting sexual penetration from women Penis havers because if they don't they're evil bigoted bad people!

Didimum · 22/06/2024 21:55

Jengat · 22/06/2024 21:31

Bigoted, homophobic, prejudiced, closed minded - all words used on the thread. Words that are weaponised in this day and age to make people fall sharpley into line lest they be seen as a "bad person". People - women in particular - may be guilted into ignoring their intuition/beliefs when these words are pulled out and used against them. For some, the social pressure is too difficult to withstand.

It’s meaningless to use those words out of the context of how they were written. You can call a spade a spade while still making it clear people can date who they want.

It’s an internet forum and OP has asked the question. People are here to give their opinion, not overly sugarcoat something.

Didimum · 22/06/2024 21:56

DoreenonTill8 · 22/06/2024 21:52

Absolutely, all this used by those proudly advocating how they forcibly break through the cotton ceiling and force/shame lesbians into accepting sexual penetration from women Penis havers because if they don't they're evil bigoted bad people!

Literally no one on this thread has said anything like that.

Didimum · 22/06/2024 22:09

Jengat · 22/06/2024 21:31

Bigoted, homophobic, prejudiced, closed minded - all words used on the thread. Words that are weaponised in this day and age to make people fall sharpley into line lest they be seen as a "bad person". People - women in particular - may be guilted into ignoring their intuition/beliefs when these words are pulled out and used against them. For some, the social pressure is too difficult to withstand.

It should also be pointed out that on the first 4 pages of this thread there have been at least two disgusting responses to women who have had relationships with bisexual men, and two others who equated bisexual/gay men to paedophiles, people who have sex with animals or people who pay to have sex with trafficked women. Completely indefensible.

Jengat · 22/06/2024 22:10

Didimum · 22/06/2024 21:55

It’s meaningless to use those words out of the context of how they were written. You can call a spade a spade while still making it clear people can date who they want.

It’s an internet forum and OP has asked the question. People are here to give their opinion, not overly sugarcoat something.

You're hard work aren't you?! Go for a brisk walk or something then revisit what I said... although you come across as being deliberately obtuse so it may not help. 🤷‍♀️

Didimum · 22/06/2024 22:16

Jengat · 22/06/2024 22:10

You're hard work aren't you?! Go for a brisk walk or something then revisit what I said... although you come across as being deliberately obtuse so it may not help. 🤷‍♀️

Maybe you do find me hard work … oh well. Disagreeing with you and not understanding you are two separate things.

LaughingCat · 22/06/2024 22:50

This thread…Christ…I’ve genuinely lost my faith in people. Preference/prejudice…two different words but seemingly often confused. Like a pp said, I’m likewise out.

Lighteningstrikes · 22/06/2024 23:00

@newdater32
You're allowed to feel how you feel.
FWIW, it would also give me the complete ick.

Moneysitu · 23/06/2024 10:34

Didimum · 22/06/2024 21:04

No. I’ve fancied Indian men and black men – just hasn’t turned into dating or a relationship. My partner 20yrs ago had had a bisexual experience when he was younger.

Try again.

What is it with your "Try again" and "Try harder" comments?

As if you are the oracle, and correct about everything, and the rest of us are mere plebs who are trying, and failing, to get one over on you. So weird.

You are name calling and labelling women as "Bi-phobic" if they don't want to sleep with bi-sexual men. That's appalling and could really make a sensitive or very young woman question the validity of her own boundaries.

And then we find out that you have only ever dated straight men. So you don't even practice what you preach.

Absolutely bonkers.

Moneysitu · 23/06/2024 10:39

Didimum · 22/06/2024 22:09

It should also be pointed out that on the first 4 pages of this thread there have been at least two disgusting responses to women who have had relationships with bisexual men, and two others who equated bisexual/gay men to paedophiles, people who have sex with animals or people who pay to have sex with trafficked women. Completely indefensible.

Nobody equated bisexual or gay men to paedophiles, people who have sex with animals or people who pay to have sex with trafficked women.

What was said is that you are allowed to exclude people from your dating pool for any reason, for eg. you might not want to date a man who had used prostitues. You might want to re-read the posts.

Moneysitu · 23/06/2024 10:45

Didimum · 22/06/2024 20:59

I’ve only been with straight, white men too. But I don’t blanket rule out anyone on the face of it. Of course I have my aesthetic preferences, and over the years paying more heed to those has ebbed and flowed. If I’ve rejected anyone based on appearance alone, then that’s been shallow of me.

So here you say you've only dated straight white men, but in a different post you say you've dated a bi-sexual man. Hmm.

And it's not shallow to only date people that you fancy. Bearing in mind that you're not going to want sex with someone that you think is unattractive. I have known men in my life, who are funny and kind, but I don't want sex or a relationship with them, because I don't fancy them. And that's fine!

Didimum · 23/06/2024 15:43

Moneysitu · 23/06/2024 10:34

What is it with your "Try again" and "Try harder" comments?

As if you are the oracle, and correct about everything, and the rest of us are mere plebs who are trying, and failing, to get one over on you. So weird.

You are name calling and labelling women as "Bi-phobic" if they don't want to sleep with bi-sexual men. That's appalling and could really make a sensitive or very young woman question the validity of her own boundaries.

And then we find out that you have only ever dated straight men. So you don't even practice what you preach.

Absolutely bonkers.

I've made 21 comments on this thread and have said 'try again' or 'try harder' twice. So that's a major exaggeration.

You're just annoyed I don't agree with you, so you'll just have to put up with it I'm afraid.

I have made it abundantly clear that OP should date who she wishes to a number of times.

I also stated very clearly above that I have dated a man who had had a sexual experience with another man, so yes I so practice what I preach, not that that has anything what to do with you or my opinion whatsoever. That man classed himself as straight. As I tend to let people self-identify their sexuality, then I will class him as straight.

Bye.

Didimum · 23/06/2024 15:45

Moneysitu · 23/06/2024 10:45

So here you say you've only dated straight white men, but in a different post you say you've dated a bi-sexual man. Hmm.

And it's not shallow to only date people that you fancy. Bearing in mind that you're not going to want sex with someone that you think is unattractive. I have known men in my life, who are funny and kind, but I don't want sex or a relationship with them, because I don't fancy them. And that's fine!

I have only dated straight men. The man I referred to had had a same-sex sexual experience 10yrs prior to us meeting. He classed himself as straight then and he still does 20yrs later. I will let the individual self-certify their own sexuality.

I didn't say it's shallow to only date people you fancy. I said it shallow to blanket reject people on one aesthetic element alone. Keep up.

Didimum · 23/06/2024 15:49

Moneysitu · 23/06/2024 10:39

Nobody equated bisexual or gay men to paedophiles, people who have sex with animals or people who pay to have sex with trafficked women.

What was said is that you are allowed to exclude people from your dating pool for any reason, for eg. you might not want to date a man who had used prostitues. You might want to re-read the posts.

Nope – it said we should have 'some standards' to where a penis has been, because it could have been in an underage girl, an animal or a prostitute. This was in reply to a woman you had dated a bisexual man, and the poster was telling the woman she should have standards. There is absolutely no reason, cause or logic to comparing a man who has has sex with another man to a man that has had sex with an underage girl, animal or prostitute, if you are comparing 'standards'.

Gymnopedie · 23/06/2024 16:15

If he'd said he tried it and hated it and it was a mistake, I could get past it. The end.
It's the fact that he went on to say he'd be open to it in a group sex situation. If group sex is on his radar I'm out, whoever is in the group.

AmelieTaylor · 24/06/2024 01:18

Moro93 · 22/06/2024 13:43

I think it’s actually the opposite. It’s insulting to people who are bi to say this isn’t bi. Bisexuality is a spectrum, bi people aren’t equally attracted to men and women. If he had a sexual encounter with another man and is willing to go there again, then he’s bi.

@Moro93

we're going to have to agree to disagree.

The men are happy in straight relationships. There's no emotional or romantic attraction. It's just sexual play.

it's very common. I wouldn't like it if my partner was doing it, partly because it just doesn't do it for me, but mostly because it's 'cheating' in the same way as it would be if he was doing anything sexual with another woman, even if there wasn't an emotional connection there.

Moneysitu · 25/06/2024 11:05

AmelieTaylor · 24/06/2024 01:18

@Moro93

we're going to have to agree to disagree.

The men are happy in straight relationships. There's no emotional or romantic attraction. It's just sexual play.

it's very common. I wouldn't like it if my partner was doing it, partly because it just doesn't do it for me, but mostly because it's 'cheating' in the same way as it would be if he was doing anything sexual with another woman, even if there wasn't an emotional connection there.

Straight men don't play with other men's penises. 🙄

Moneysitu · 25/06/2024 11:07

Didimum · 23/06/2024 15:45

I have only dated straight men. The man I referred to had had a same-sex sexual experience 10yrs prior to us meeting. He classed himself as straight then and he still does 20yrs later. I will let the individual self-certify their own sexuality.

I didn't say it's shallow to only date people you fancy. I said it shallow to blanket reject people on one aesthetic element alone. Keep up.

Edited

"Keep up".

There you go again.

Teacher vibes. Anyway, not engaging anymore, I have a feeling that you have your fingers in your ears.

Didimum · 25/06/2024 11:10

Moneysitu · 25/06/2024 11:07

"Keep up".

There you go again.

Teacher vibes. Anyway, not engaging anymore, I have a feeling that you have your fingers in your ears.

And you simply have an issue with people disagreeing with you. I'm afraid you're just going to have to cope with that the best you can.

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