Terrorists' vandalising Stone Henge and trying to force govt policy

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We need the security services to shut the group down when they are carrying out what can be described as terrorist methods to influence govt policy.

No, I’m not. But judging by what you’ve been able to do, you’re clearly not living in fuel poverty.

I don’t disagree that changes need to be made to energy supplies - I don’t think very many people are in the camp of let’s do nothing.

But, it has to be sustainably done, funded, planned, the technology developed, people in fuel poverty protected (most important).

Potentially damaging things, causing traffic hotspots, potentially risking lives is childish behaviour.

Feel free to throw yourself under a horse - there would be a lot of concern for the horses welfare; but I suspect not much change in oil production.

They’re a lot less destructive than oil companies and their controversial and headline-grabbing actions help bring this urgent issue to the top of the agenda.

Now we can all read this for example and see if we’re still happy calling orange cornstarch “terrorism”:

“ We were eating, drinking, breathing the oil”

I’m interested in how they all got there, carrying these large canisters. Bike? Pony and trap? Anyone know? Don’t believe they all live very locally…..

Maybe the stones were petrified!

Just Stop Oil's German equivalent also claimed that the orange paint they sprayed on the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin would 'just wash off in the rain'. It didn't. Cleaning the porous sandstone took three months, costing €140k of taxpayer's money.

‘Terrorism’? Get a grip. You clearly have t experienced real terrorism.

Can’t understand the people ‘turned off the cause’ by this.
Surely nobody of normal intelligence stops seeing the evidence on climate change because of the actions of a handful of people? That would be truly foolish behaviour.

This.

People don't respect them or their opinions. They achieve nothing good from their actions. Just twats.

Exactly, stupid as well. Fine them the clean up costs. Many seem quite well off.

Tell that to the people who died because ambulances couldn't get through the road blocks.

Are they forensic archaeologists with expertise in eco-taphonomic pedology? I'd be surprised.

No it won’t and the idiots on this thread don’t understand how important lichens are for giving us clean air.

always the over privileged brats who do these stupid stunts too. Wearing £45 quid t-shirts from fucking Mexico, they’re insufferable hypocrites.

i never understood the whole blocking the roads that again omg behaviours

Boohoo.

Do you know how much this cost to clean up ?

So that article tells us more than JSO ever did. The alarmist 'world is burning' and 'present and real emergency' are just words. By standing on top of a tube train shouting that we don't care about our children's future is ridiculous. Of course we do. JSO have to stop the publicity stunts and communicate how THEY are helping/improving the situation. Stand for election, just do something POSITIVE. Stop choosing easy targets involving minimal effort to disrupt. The snooker? Weddings? cricket? How is that helping? Make some positive effort not just empty headed chucking of paint, gluing of hands?

How many was that?

Who died ?

That JSO took action lead to people reading that article.

Thank you for putting this so more eloquently than I could

I despair if JSO, they are harming the cause of environmentalists

Why not give up the car and use public transport?

I think the issue is that some people see this kind of thing and think that environmentalism has "gone too far' and is not for people like them (who wouldn't throw paint), so they start to see themselves as different from the environmentalists. They the start to question some of the other demands that environmentalism puts on their lives - and vote Reform so that their taxes aren't being spent on the things these vandals are demanding.

Leaving aside the criminal damage of an ancient monument and the disgraceful act of endangering rare species, I wonder whether they considered the powerful religious significance that Stonehenge holds for Pagans.

Would they have vandalised a synagogue or a mosque? I very much doubt it, because they are cowards as well as fuckwits.

They deserve nothing but utter contempt for their actions.

Do you think that having taken a lot of measures already that I haven’t considered it ?

It fails because public transport in my rural village is not fit for purpose. First bus out gets me to work at 10:30am, last back means I would have to leave at 4pm.

It's a magical old stone circle that has been rebuilt last century and just had a bit of orange flour thrown upon them to highlight the world's plight. Nothing to really moan about here.

Is potentially rendering particular species of lichen (which is not impossible, some are incredibly localised) extinct laughable? Is making it impossible for the assorted crowds of people who go there every midsummer as part of their spiritual beliefs to access the place as they're now going to be seen as untrustworthy/might have paint or other substances on them to destroy more of the particular local ecosystem also laughable?

Seeing as archaeology goes down to the microscopic level in the form of identifying plants, lichens and pollen, they've already added 'pigments from 21st century vandalism' to the history of the site.

They're not clever, they're not heroes or anything special. They're just pretending that their desire to destroy things that don't matter to them is for good reasons instead of the actual reasons of a buzz and more attention.