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To not offer two types of beef burger at summer fair (halal and non halal)?

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NameChangedJune · 18/06/2024 21:31

In addition a veggie option?

I’ve took responsibility for sorting the burgers for BBQ at summer school PTA fair.
I was thinking, I can buy all burgers as halal only. A good portion of the school population are either non-religious or Muslim.

However, DH is saying we should also offer a non-halal burger option (he is religious - Sikh and avoids halal due to his beliefs). However I think he is a minority and could have veggie? There are Hindus but they wouldn’t eat beef anyway so it’s a tiny amount of people other than DH who I think would care if we go full halal for the burgers.

IMO one type of beef burger that is suitable for most would be easiest. AIBU?

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Leidenschaft24 · 18/06/2024 22:37

Putting · 18/06/2024 22:32

The veggie option could equally accommodate people who don’t want to eat halal meat.

A veggie option could accommodate most folk tbh - OP should maybe just do that!

dunkdemunder · 18/06/2024 22:37

@FairyRings

It's 88% and rising

To not offer two types of beef burger at summer fair (halal and non halal)?
To not offer two types of beef burger at summer fair (halal and non halal)?
To not offer two types of beef burger at summer fair (halal and non halal)?
sprigatito · 18/06/2024 22:37

OneTC · 18/06/2024 22:34

Just do halal and vegetarian. Anyone that doesn't want halal can have vegetarian. People that don't want vegetarian and won't eat halal meat can go hungry, honestly who cares about those people

Yeah, this. FFS.

Danfromdownunder · 18/06/2024 22:38

Just do falafels. Everyone eats veg not everyone eats meat. And cakes. I love a good fete cake stall.

Putting · 18/06/2024 22:38

Leidenschaft24 · 18/06/2024 22:37

A veggie option could accommodate most folk tbh - OP should maybe just do that!

Would certainly be easier!

Dweetfidilove · 18/06/2024 22:38

countcalculia · 18/06/2024 22:28

Because some people (not OP) just can’t bear any sort of accommodation for Muslims.

I’m inclined to agree, because nothing else makes sense. If I’ve identified that the majority of my consumers are likely to by X, I’d be an idiot to turn up with Y .
And OP is offering an alternative.

countcalculia · 18/06/2024 22:38

Leidenschaft24 · 18/06/2024 22:30

How is there being a veggie option not accommodating muslims (and any one else who doesn't want a burger)?

You still haven’t answered why you’re exhorting OP to buy non-halal burgers when the meat eaters at the event will be mostly Muslim?

Growlybear83 · 18/06/2024 22:39

Danfromdownunder · 18/06/2024 22:38

Just do falafels. Everyone eats veg not everyone eats meat. And cakes. I love a good fete cake stall.

But not everyone eats veggie foods - I would never eat a vegetarian option at something like a barbecue!

SighingMum23 · 18/06/2024 22:40

Very interesting that so many people on here are saying, "why should I eat halal."

Have any of you ever worked at dominos or KFC or any other place? Have you not seen that so much of our meat is imported from Muslim countries and is actually halal. They just don't always advertise it as it being halal.

countcalculia · 18/06/2024 22:40

Dweetfidilove · 18/06/2024 22:38

I’m inclined to agree, because nothing else makes sense. If I’ve identified that the majority of my consumers are likely to by X, I’d be an idiot to turn up with Y .
And OP is offering an alternative.

Exactly! A voice of reason.

StMarieforme · 18/06/2024 22:41

TheCadoganArms · 18/06/2024 21:35

Just buy one set of the same burgers and on the day split them into two piles of 'Halal' and 'non halal' and just save yourself the hassle.

Good grief. This is horrific.

OneTC · 18/06/2024 22:41

WittyFatball · 18/06/2024 22:29

Why do you care if it's been blessed?

Catching religion by osmosis

MissAtomicBomb1 · 18/06/2024 22:42

@countcalculia
Ahh glad you've spotted that she actually said 'there will be lots' of Muslims not 'most are Muslims' after berating me for not being able to read
All semantics though really isn't it? Hmm

Dweetfidilove · 18/06/2024 22:42

OneTC · 18/06/2024 22:41

Catching religion by osmosis

🤣🤣🤣🤣

dunkdemunder · 18/06/2024 22:42

@VisitationRights
You would never go to Bali or Turkey, Maldives, Malaysia Morocco or the UAE?

StormingNorman · 18/06/2024 22:42

@NameChangedJune I would opt for veggie burgers, halal and non-halal if you have the three BBQs and sets of utensils to do it.

You need to cater to your market.

LivingDeadGirlUK · 18/06/2024 22:43

SmokeBlackCat · 18/06/2024 22:06

I think a lot of posters on this thread would be surprised how much food in the U.K. is halal. I’m pretty sure we’ve all eaten halal meat unless you are absolutely meticulous about checking provenance every time you buy meat. For example, many Nando’s restaurants serve halal meat: https://www.nandos.co.uk/halal

My children’s London school only serves lamb or chicken meat (no pork or beef due to the large number of pupils who won’t eat it for religious reasons) and I believe all the meat served is halal.

I’m not Muslim (or Jewish or Hindu or any other religion with food restrictions) and I try to serve high welfare meat at home. But I’m not naive enough to think the average packaged chicken sandwich probably doesn’t have high welfare. And if I really wanted to avoid that I’d need to eat vegetarian unless I was sure of sources.

This is so true, I've never seen this not eating halal on principle attitude in real life, these posters are going to shit a brick when they find out what happens to the bits of kosher slaughtered cows that aren't kosher, like the sirloin for example, it doesn't get thrown away!

countcalculia · 18/06/2024 22:43

Growlybear83 · 18/06/2024 22:39

But not everyone eats veggie foods - I would never eat a vegetarian option at something like a barbecue!

Agreed. It’s bizarre that if the meat-eating attendees are mostly white or Christian, then non-halal burgers should be served. But when the meat-eating attendees are mostly Muslim, suddenly they think it’s only fair that everyone gets falafels and Muslims shouldn’t get meat.

The inherent double standard is mind boggling.

ExitChasedByCars · 18/06/2024 22:43

StMarieforme · 18/06/2024 22:41

Good grief. This is horrific.

Just goes to show what some people really think.

Leidenschaft24 · 18/06/2024 22:43

RoobarbAndMustard · 18/06/2024 22:35

^^ this
I suspect most of you who are anti halal meet have actually eaten some, unless you are vegetarian or vegan. Many kebab and Indian restaurants will be halal. Some Nando's are halal. You just don't realise it.
Some of the attitudes on this thread are definitely anti Muslim. Especially the poster who was suggesting tricking Muslims into eating non halal meat.
I'm an atheist by the way so not skin in the game here.

I make sure to avoid halal.
We live in an area with few takeaways and don't eat out often.
We don't eat huge amounts of meat either.
I don't need or want my food blessed, and do not want the option of non-halal to be eroded.
I'm happy for others to eat what they choose for religious and/or moral reasons.
I'm not anti-muslim or any other faith just because I don't want to follow certain rules around eating.

CJ0374 · 18/06/2024 22:43

I'd offer to work on the cake stand instead of the burger one- sorted! 😆

WhatsMyEmail · 18/06/2024 22:43

Was there a BBQ last year and what were the sales like?

noctilucentcloud · 18/06/2024 22:44

Danfromdownunder · 18/06/2024 22:38

Just do falafels. Everyone eats veg not everyone eats meat. And cakes. I love a good fete cake stall.

A lot of folk aren't aware that people with conditions such as IBS can't eat things like falafels. While you can't cater to everyone, providing vegetarian only food is not as inclusive as people often think.

StormingNorman · 18/06/2024 22:44

SighingMum23 · 18/06/2024 22:40

Very interesting that so many people on here are saying, "why should I eat halal."

Have any of you ever worked at dominos or KFC or any other place? Have you not seen that so much of our meat is imported from Muslim countries and is actually halal. They just don't always advertise it as it being halal.

Well that’s awkward for the racists.

Thementalloadisreal · 18/06/2024 22:44

Growlybear83 · 18/06/2024 22:39

But not everyone eats veggie foods - I would never eat a vegetarian option at something like a barbecue!

I do wonder how constipated some meat eaters are.

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