To not offer two types of beef burger at summer fair (halal and non halal)?

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In addition a veggie option?

I’ve took responsibility for sorting the burgers for BBQ at summer school PTA fair.
I was thinking, I can buy all burgers as halal only. A good portion of the school population are either non-religious or Muslim.

However, DH is saying we should also offer a non-halal burger option (he is religious - Sikh and avoids halal due to his beliefs). However I think he is a minority and could have veggie? There are Hindus but they wouldn’t eat beef anyway so it’s a tiny amount of people other than DH who I think would care if we go full halal for the burgers.

IMO one type of beef burger that is suitable for most would be easiest. AIBU?

AFAIK muslims come in a variety of colours, just like people of other religions and people of no religion.
I don't care if others eat halal but I refuse to purchase it on principle - I don't need my food blessed and I don't want to erode the option of non-halal alternatives.

@Plumbibii I wouldn't have thought vegetarians and vegans would appreciate their burgers being cooked with halal meat - surely any type of meat would contaminate vegetarian food if it was cooked together?

Because some people (not OP) just can’t bear any sort of accommodation for Muslims.

Why do you care if it's been blessed?

If you don’t care why are you exhorting OP to buy non-halal for the mostly Muslims consumers?

He probably doesn’t want Halal meat but doesn’t want to say it…

OP, I think it would be safer to offer only veggie options because meat eaters and non-meaters can have that and I’m sure even the Halal eaters wouldn’t even expect Halal meat. Whereas there clearly are Islamaphobic people who would avoid Halal meat but clearly would eat non-Halal meat as though somehow it’s better . Vegetarian burgers might be the most hassle free and also saves the headache of making meat and veggie burgers separately.

How is there being a veggie option not accommodating muslims (and any one else who doesn't want a burger)?

Thank you, you’re the only one that’s answered my actual question - you won’t eat halal because it’s been blessed. This is interesting, I don’t believe in any god so it being blessed is neither here nor there to me. Do you mind me asking, is it for your own religious reasons you won’t eat blessed meat?

Just do felafel wraps for everyone.

No religious controversy, no cross contamimation risk, no need for multiple sets of equipment, a lot easier and faster to serve because you can cook in big batches and keep warm rather than cooking to order, and much less risk of food poisoning (if I ate meat, I wouldn't trust an amateur attempting a mass-catering barbecue).

It's not islamaphobic to avoid personally eating halal.

The veggie option could equally accommodate people who don’t want to eat halal meat.

If I turned up and halal was the only meat option I'd feel pretty pissed off tbh.

at a school fair??

You don't have to eat there at all if you don't want to?

@Blimpton @eatsleepfarmrepeat @Riversideandrelax

I'm not sure you understand
A) the slaughter method for halal

B) the slaughter method for non halal

The vast majority of halal is stunned before cutting the major artery

Non halal is either
A)stunned, hoisted and sticking is done. Sticking is cutting blood vessels.
B) bolted with an electrical bolt either to stun or kill. If stunned it is followed by sticking.

There is very little difference

www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/farm/slaughter/factfile

Where I live a very large proportion of the restaurants /food places only use halal meat, and it was the only meat served at the primary school I worked at which is part of a large academy with many local primary and secondary schools. I'm pretty sure all the meat used is halal there.
If a large amount of the people coming will only eat halal then I'd serve that and a veggie burger. I'm veggie and don't really agree with halal meat but you need to think about what will sell.

Yes it is when somehow eating non-halal is considered more “humane” thereby implying halal meat is inhumane. Otherwise what other justification is there to avoid halal meat? It’s still meat.

I thought the McDonalds in Southall sold halal food?

I don't think most meat eaters really give a second thought to the butchering method of their meat to be honest.

Most posters are ignoring the fact that most of the carnivores at this event will not eat non-halal meat. You have to cater to the people actually there, not your own tastes!

The ridiculous posts come from the fact that most Muslims are used to not having halal catered for everywhere and will eat veggie without kicking up a fuss. A lot of non-religious carnivores want meat and only meat, and the meat must be their way.

It wouldn't hurt them to compromise for once. Especially when at this event they'll be in the minority...

Halal meat + veggie burgers (not fake meat). Fake meat is variable and often has weird shit in it, plus if you get some kind of proper veggie patty, you won't run the risk of mixing the burgers up on the day and upsetting people accidentally.

Clearly you don’t read well as OP says ‘I think we’d sell more if we get halal as there are lots of Muslims.’

There are veggie burgers for the vegetarians. And the halal burgers will serve the other large cohort (Muslims).

Just do halal and vegetarian. Anyone that doesn't want halal can have vegetarian. People that don't want vegetarian and won't eat halal meat can go hungry, honestly who cares about those people

^^ this
I suspect most of you who are anti halal meet have actually eaten some, unless you are vegetarian or vegan. Many kebab and Indian restaurants will be halal. Some Nando's are halal. You just don't realise it.
Some of the attitudes on this thread are definitely anti Muslim. Especially the poster who was suggesting tricking Muslims into eating non halal meat.
I'm an atheist by the way so not skin in the game here.

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How is having non-halal meat more ethical? Unless you’re referring to grass-fed and organic, it’s the same thing?