To not offer two types of beef burger at summer fair (halal and non halal)?

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In addition a veggie option?

I’ve took responsibility for sorting the burgers for BBQ at summer school PTA fair.
I was thinking, I can buy all burgers as halal only. A good portion of the school population are either non-religious or Muslim.

However, DH is saying we should also offer a non-halal burger option (he is religious - Sikh and avoids halal due to his beliefs). However I think he is a minority and could have veggie? There are Hindus but they wouldn’t eat beef anyway so it’s a tiny amount of people other than DH who I think would care if we go full halal for the burgers.

IMO one type of beef burger that is suitable for most would be easiest. AIBU?

Are you homophobic? Against free speech? Against political descent? Against women’s right? Most muslim countries fail in all these categories according to human rights indexes. Why would I support any country that didn’t hold my values?

Yes, its the usual 10pm lets get them frothing thread. The OP lighrs the blue touch paper then retires to bed. Can't believe I fell for it.

I hope you’re avoiding the US too then?

I went off to google what halal method of slaughtering animals actually entails - I have to admit my ignorant twat mother brainwashed me with the identical description that the previous poster made about halal meat. I feel like it was a wide spread mistruth in the 80s and 90s. We are a Hindu household so we don’t eat beef but that’s another thing altogether. But after reading the facts it seems halal is better. For everyone.

And you are missing that most of the meat eaters there are Muslims.

Do the basic concepts of supply and demand elude you?

Are you avoiding France too then??

If most of the guests are Muslim then just do halal and vegetarian. Take a pragmatic approach.

Ignore the raging islamophobia on here from posters, who will have certainly eaten quite a lot of halal-compliant meat from supermarkets and restaurants without realising and who haven't dropped dead yet.

I'm going to call it as i see it and say I think a lot of the people that have a problem do so because its Muslim, not because its Halal, because ive never seen a non vegan give a shit about how meat is slaughtered in any other context.

I agree with this.

And also with the posters who've pointed out that a lot of meat in the UK is halal and people simply don't realise. Unless they're vegetarian/vegan, a lot of the posters saying they'd never eat halal meat probably have.
Tesco says a lot of their meat is slaughtered in a way that would be consistent with it being halal (but it isn't labelled as such because a prayer isn't said). I believe the majority of New Zealand lamb is halal, for example.

Cooking all 3 completely separately??

I would just offer veggie burger only.

Raising animals to eat them is fucking barbaic in the first place 🤷‍♀️

Yes. Please respect moraos over religion.

Just buy non halal meat.

I think it's difficult but if it was me, I would buy halal beef burgers, non halal burgers (beef, lamb, or chicken) and vege burgers on the basis that many non Muslims will not want to eat halal meat and also may not want to eat meat free burgers. And don't forget that they will all need to be cooked separately

Vegetarian and halal can be cooked together.

Non halal meat utensils and cooking arrangements will need to be separate to ensure no cross contamination.

Oh be quiet.

Why are you so interested in my travel patterns? Obsessed much!

I’m veggie so have no interest whatsoever in the meat option but was super curious about this as I know nothing about animal slaughter in the food industry really. A quick google suggests:

‘UK Food Standards Agency figures from 2011 suggest 84% of cattle, 81% of sheep and 88% of chickens slaughtered for halal meat were stunned before they died.

Supermarkets selling halal products say they stun all animals before they are slaughtered. Tesco says the only difference between the halal meat it sells and other meat is that it was blessed as it was killed.’

From the BBC, so reasonably likely to be both accurate and unbiased. So everyone who wouldn’t eat halal is refusing to do so because it’s been prayed over? Genuinely I’m curious as obviously I don’t eat meat at all (and am an atheist) so I’d be interested to understand why so many meat eaters find this a problem?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27324224

You read wrong. Only 17% of Nando’s restaurants (out of 465) are halal, in areas with a high Muslim population. It’s about supply and demand.

If vegetarian and halal are cooked together, the vegetarians can’t eat any of it.

You’re kidding, right? No way would I touch a vegetarian burger knowing it had been cooked with a (halal) meat burger! That’s not right at all.

If a good proportion of the pupils are Muslim then all food served for lunches will be Halal. I'm not sure people can start objecting at the summer fete.

They find it a problem because in their mind muslim = brown.

It had been a while since I’d seen an Islamophobic thread on MN. Granted this thread isn’t as bad as others, but it was long overdue.