To not offer two types of beef burger at summer fair (halal and non halal)?

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In addition a veggie option?

I’ve took responsibility for sorting the burgers for BBQ at summer school PTA fair.
I was thinking, I can buy all burgers as halal only. A good portion of the school population are either non-religious or Muslim.

However, DH is saying we should also offer a non-halal burger option (he is religious - Sikh and avoids halal due to his beliefs). However I think he is a minority and could have veggie? There are Hindus but they wouldn’t eat beef anyway so it’s a tiny amount of people other than DH who I think would care if we go full halal for the burgers.

IMO one type of beef burger that is suitable for most would be easiest. AIBU?

Another sneering post. Have a word with yourself. Obnoxiousness isn't a good look.

The slaughterhouse cutting room has a girlie calendar on the wall (topless page 3 style). Do you refuse to eat the meat because you're a feminist? Or is it only Muslim stuff you reject?

I’ve seen enough grey mince on the supermarket shelves. But yes I’m sure your cow mince is special. I expect that cow was cuddled and sung lullabies to death.

How have animal welfare standards lowered due to halal standards? If anything, more and more meat is being pre-stunned.

And why penalise the Muslims at this event?

of Course non-vegans care about slaughter methods.

I wouldn’t ever eat meat that hadn’t been stunned. I wouldn’t eat halal meat.

He’s right though. Most people don’t know free range means. I imagined it means the chickens spent most of their time outdoors, I was wrong. That’s what the industry want us to think.

I wasn't making any statements about the animal's death - of course it wasn't a cuddly experience!
I was making referring to your comment regarding grey meat.

British lamb is a luxury product, a lot goes to Muslim festivals and also to France. Most lamb sold in Britain is the cheaper stuff from NZ (and they slaughter almost all theirs halal)

We're fortunate to live in an area where quite a few people keep hens, almost as pets, and sometimes get given eggs. We can also buy local genuinely free range eggs in our smaller local shops.

Have you ever had a curry or kebab?

I have never eaten lamb, ever.

That’s ideal, but not possible for most people in urban areas, or it’s prohibitively expensive. Free range eggs are £3 for 6 at my local farmer’s market, it’s hard for families to afford that.

I know what you mean but even a few hours of daylight or indeed the ability to walk is preferable to a battery hen. It at least shows willing and even the most ignorant consumer knows that free range, however spurious a term, should enjoy a (marginally) better life than a battery hen. Red Tractor is another - people dont know what it means but they do know it's a UK standard supporting UK farmers and welfare.

I don't know about that, people have killed animals for all of our history and always eaten meat. It's only recently that most people have nothing to do with farming or killing animals and that people are becoming vegetarian.

Farmers and slaughterhouse workers who have the most exposure to it are very rarely vegetarian .

But surely those people will eat the veggie option?

Most meat is pretty cruel but it doesn't seem to put people off. What makes you think halal meat is more cruel?

Very very rarely. I have never eaten kebabs. TBH, most takeaways revolt me. I eat occasional British beef, chosen with care,the highest animal welfare standards I can find. Waitrose beef is stunned preslaughter.

Yes, that's why I started with 'we're fortunate'.

Or a school dinner or hospital food?

I agree. We (as a nation) have farmed meat for centuries and Im fortunate to know a few farmers. They are hard working men, its a tough job but they do keep good standards and care about their livestock, its one of their income streams after all. Can't speak for slaughterhouses, theres a huge one near me but its one of those places you never really know what goes on inside. Much like care homes and hospitals to be honest!

I have never eaten a kebab either.
We rarely eat curry these days, and even when we did it was home-made from known sources.
I'm starting to realise how many folk maybe don't realise how much halal they're (blindly) consuming.

Bless you, in my school days no meat in Britain was halal. The Muslim population and hence denand was tiny.

i always eat vegetarian if I am in hospital, which is very seldom.

Our schools don't use halal.
I don't think the hospital does either, but I tend to take veggie option when ill, as I go off meat.

I think you’re very much a minority!

@Leidenschaft24 I'm actually quite ignorant to halal, how do you know if meat is halal and killed properly or killed without stunning. I was taught halal in England just meant it had been blessed but still killed as ethically as possible xx

Personally I would give the bbq a miss as it is causing too many arguments. One assumes it is not a religious school .
Why not just do some lovely vegetable dishes or veggies curry and bread?
I am a meat eater but would prefer not to offend anyone.