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To have given her extra food?

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jerkorperk · 18/06/2024 19:52

Last week I looked after a friend's DC for an afternoon as she is going somewhere her DC can't.

I offered. No problem there

She was given a packed lunch when her mum dropped her off. I said there was no need but her mum just said 'oh no, honestly, it's fine'

Assuming fussy eater etc I didn't question it and just let her have her packed lunch. We had some lunch alongside her

She had finished what she had and asked if she could try what I was eating. I said no problem, of course. And gave her a plate. I said eat what you like and don't worry about leaving what you don't

She ate it all. And for all of us afterwards, I had a cake. It was a red velvet cake from Costco. It is really yum and a nice treat

She had a slice and then another slice because she enjoyed it. She left a bit of the additional slice. Again, a non issue

I got a harshly worded text from her mum that said 'Hi, Y said you gave her additional food after her lunch provided. In addition to this, she had gorged on a lot of cake too? Please in future can you stick to what I provide'

AIBU to think what's the big issue? Have I overstepped some mark I didn't know about Blush The little girl is 7. My own daughter is 2

OP posts:
Grammarnut · 26/06/2024 13:31

sandyhappypeople · 26/06/2024 11:41

It’s not your job to ‘build a good relationship with food’ for a child who you don’t know, who is in your care for a few hours.

and feeding a child to excess, or encouraging a child to eat to excess is not ‘building a good relationship with food’ either so your point is totally moot, I’d say that’s worse then her ‘not having enough carbs’ for one meal, one time.

The girl is not underweight, she’s a perfectly healthy, normal weight 7 year old, you are judging the mum and daughters whole eating habits and lifestyle based on one packed lunch, of a healthy happy child.

you have no idea why she sent the meal she did, which the op even says was adequate, trying some of OPs food and/or having a bit of cake for afters would have been perfectly acceptable by anyone’s standards, feeding her an extra plate of food and slices of cake until she physically couldn’t eat any more, when the girl hasn’t expressed that she is hungry or even wants any more is just bizarre IMO.

I was not referring to the child, though I quoted her meal as being pretty joyless (because it is), nor am I building a good relationship with food for her - as you say, not my job. The point I was making is that a great number of people on this board see food as only about nutrition, not about pleasure. But food is one of the ways in which we have enjoyment. My late DH would say 'not every meal is going to be a taste explosion' but that it should taste good, encourage you to eat and encourage a good relationship with food which is something you can enjoy. Occasionally one may eat to excess, and there are penalties for that, so that one learns not to eat too much cake. Earlier I remarked : 'and shall there be no more cakes and ale?' suggesting that a lot of people on this board are Puritans about food and this is not building a good relationship with food, either. Enjoy it, for Heaven's sake. It was only a couple of slices of cake and some popcorn. The child ate to repleteness, which is correct.
Another point is that 'nice' foods should not be put forward as only being 'treats' as this deeply builds a bad relationship with food. All food should be a treat - it should look, taste and feel good, be moreish, as well as nutritious (being nice does not mean it's not nutritious).
NB I wouldn't wish a Soreen bar on anyone as part of a lunch, a bit gooey and full of sugar. A yoghurt, a whole piece of fruit etc would be much nicer.

Calliopespa · 26/06/2024 13:40

HereComesEverybody · 26/06/2024 08:56

Really & truly people are so ridiculous on here & in real life it would seem! How does it matter at all that a kid overate on one occasion whilst being babysat due to the kindness of a friend/ neighbour doing them a massive favour!

The mother was outrageously rude to send that text instead of a heartfelt thank you for helping her out when she was stuck.

The op was kind to include the child in their meal while she was there & not make her feel unwelcome by leaving her out when they sat down to eat together.

Who cares if she ate more than usual on that one day?

Why do people get so worked up over the smallest things? When my dd was that age (& she was also a small petite 7 year old) I would have been so grateful to any friend who helped me out if I was stuck that it simply wouldn't have occurred to me to berate them afterwards about what they'd fed them.

Exactly what I think.

Hobbiesareapita · 26/06/2024 14:42

I personally would have been more concerned from the OP pov that the child was given grapes to eat by her mother! ! A grape stuck in a child’s airway is far more of a hazard than 2 slices of cake. I say this from experience from working in AE aand also personally choking on a grape when I was 21 …luckily my medic colleague did a fantastic chest thrust to remove it!
Absolutely no child on my watch is allowed grapes !

Calliopespa · 26/06/2024 15:15

Hobbiesareapita · 26/06/2024 14:42

I personally would have been more concerned from the OP pov that the child was given grapes to eat by her mother! ! A grape stuck in a child’s airway is far more of a hazard than 2 slices of cake. I say this from experience from working in AE aand also personally choking on a grape when I was 21 …luckily my medic colleague did a fantastic chest thrust to remove it!
Absolutely no child on my watch is allowed grapes !

I think I noticed they had been cut up which I think helps?

Personally I’m not a great admirer of the Soreen bar but that would be being anal to criticise others for something relatively small in the scheme of life - a bit like the occasional slice ( and a half!) of red velvet! 😂

LazyGewl · 26/06/2024 15:25

Ottervision · 25/06/2024 18:45

It could have been but op described it and said her 2yo would be hungry which suggests it was a small portion surely?

She could have just fancied it. I still wouldn't be bothered!

Her 2 yo would be hungry because she is used to her mum stuffing her with junk food.

Calliopespa · 26/06/2024 15:34

LazyGewl · 26/06/2024 15:25

Her 2 yo would be hungry because she is used to her mum stuffing her with junk food.

Yowl🙀

Grammarnut · 26/06/2024 15:59

sandyhappypeople · 26/06/2024 13:15

She said there ‘was nothing wrong with the original lunch, my dd(2) would eat similar’, she thought the child was still hungry as she ‘asked to try what op was having’.

if she was still hungry (which is not what she said) she could have topped her up with a bit of what she was having and/or some cake after, not serve her up a other plate of food, and 2 slices of cake on top of that, which the child didn’t even ask for.

it can be inferred from what was supplied by her mum that that is the amount she would normally eat at lunch and you know she’s a healthy normal weight because op has said so, so no issue with starvation etc..

i think op meant well but got too caught up in wanting the child to like her to use her common sense to think that food of that quantity could make her feel unwell later in the day.

She said the packed lunch was what her 2 year old daughter would eat. This was a 7 year old. There is at least the implication it was not enough. And the child asked if she could try some of OP's lunch. If I give someone a plate, that does not mean a plate full of food, but a PLATE on which some food will then go. Whatever was on the plate the child ate it all and then had room for a slice (size unknown) and a bit more of cake. I think she sounds either hungry or starved of nice food at home - i.e. her DM sees food as fuel not something you actually enjoy. Terrible attitude to food, if that's the case. Lot of Puritans on here, btw, who seem to think eating food because you enjoy it is a sin. It's not.

sandyhappypeople · 26/06/2024 17:57

Grammarnut · 26/06/2024 15:59

She said the packed lunch was what her 2 year old daughter would eat. This was a 7 year old. There is at least the implication it was not enough. And the child asked if she could try some of OP's lunch. If I give someone a plate, that does not mean a plate full of food, but a PLATE on which some food will then go. Whatever was on the plate the child ate it all and then had room for a slice (size unknown) and a bit more of cake. I think she sounds either hungry or starved of nice food at home - i.e. her DM sees food as fuel not something you actually enjoy. Terrible attitude to food, if that's the case. Lot of Puritans on here, btw, who seem to think eating food because you enjoy it is a sin. It's not.

Edited

Oh yes, maybe she gave her a plate with nothing on it.. I hadn’t thought of that, actually come to think of it, that’s obviously what op meant after all.. she gave her an empty plate of nothing.

OR.. she asked to try some and op gave her a plate of it assuming she would leave what she didn’t want (which is exactly what she said) but the girl was either hungry enough for that (maybe didn’t realise there was going to be cake after) or felt too polite to leave anything behind. And then she was given cake.. then given more cake..

giving two dinners and two puddings to a 7 year old is extreme and unnecessary, OP only stopped giving her stuff when she physically couldn’t eat any more..

To be honest I’ve known a few people like OP, they are genuinely well meaning and lovely people, they offer you something, then when you say ‘yes please, but only a small bit’ because that is what you would like, they give you a massive piece, or they pile your plate high cause they assume you were being polite in asking for a small piece/small dinner. You then feel awkward and rude if you don’t eat it all, it’s an easy trap to fall into, even worse if you are a child and don’t know your hosts very well. I just say no now, because they can’t be trusted to just take what you say at face value.

there’s being kind and respecting peoples choices, then there’s being kind and thinking you know better as to what they want/need and give it them regardless, op is obviously in the latter category.

Grammarnut · 26/06/2024 18:02

sandyhappypeople · 26/06/2024 17:57

Oh yes, maybe she gave her a plate with nothing on it.. I hadn’t thought of that, actually come to think of it, that’s obviously what op meant after all.. she gave her an empty plate of nothing.

OR.. she asked to try some and op gave her a plate of it assuming she would leave what she didn’t want (which is exactly what she said) but the girl was either hungry enough for that (maybe didn’t realise there was going to be cake after) or felt too polite to leave anything behind. And then she was given cake.. then given more cake..

giving two dinners and two puddings to a 7 year old is extreme and unnecessary, OP only stopped giving her stuff when she physically couldn’t eat any more..

To be honest I’ve known a few people like OP, they are genuinely well meaning and lovely people, they offer you something, then when you say ‘yes please, but only a small bit’ because that is what you would like, they give you a massive piece, or they pile your plate high cause they assume you were being polite in asking for a small piece/small dinner. You then feel awkward and rude if you don’t eat it all, it’s an easy trap to fall into, even worse if you are a child and don’t know your hosts very well. I just say no now, because they can’t be trusted to just take what you say at face value.

there’s being kind and respecting peoples choices, then there’s being kind and thinking you know better as to what they want/need and give it them regardless, op is obviously in the latter category.

Still a board full of food-Puritans, though.

Calliopespa · 26/06/2024 18:35

Grammarnut · 26/06/2024 18:02

Still a board full of food-Puritans, though.

They are everywhere. It’s because we have the luxury of being faddy in this day and age.

HowIrresponsible · 26/06/2024 18:45

jerkorperk · 22/06/2024 20:03

I thought you'd be interested to know that she obviously hasn't seen this thread

She followed up her last message to me with 'No response to this?'

I have now left it quite late to reply anything at all!

Anyway, hopefully she realises her mistake but I don't think she ever will - it is clear I am the one in the wrong, in her eyes

I would reply. To this part : Please in future can you stick to what I provide'

I'd say there won't be a future as I won't provide free childcare again then I'd block her.

Calliopespa · 26/06/2024 18:46

Am I just old or is blocking incredibly childish ( unless a creepy stalker)?

HowIrresponsible · 26/06/2024 18:48

Calliopespa · 26/06/2024 18:46

Am I just old or is blocking incredibly childish ( unless a creepy stalker)?

It depends. But this woman seems intent on spoiling for a fight in messaging the OP so aggressively and then demanding a reply when she didn't get one.

I wouldn't want to hear what she said back or ever see her again so I'd block

Calliopespa · 26/06/2024 18:51

HowIrresponsible · 26/06/2024 18:48

It depends. But this woman seems intent on spoiling for a fight in messaging the OP so aggressively and then demanding a reply when she didn't get one.

I wouldn't want to hear what she said back or ever see her again so I'd block

I just see it mentioned a lot. I totally get it if it is a stalker type issue; but sometimes it comes across as “ I’m not your friend now” or “ I’m not talking to you anymore” which sounds a bit Year 2 or 3 to me.

S0livagant · 26/06/2024 19:15

Calliopespa · 26/06/2024 18:35

They are everywhere. It’s because we have the luxury of being faddy in this day and age.

I wouldn't call liking good basic food faddy. I'd choose the child's lunch over the Costco cake anyday because I'd enjoy it. Chicken, grapes and cheese taste nice. Soreen bars are okay, I'd happily eat one if hungry.

Ottervision · 26/06/2024 19:20

S0livagant · 26/06/2024 19:15

I wouldn't call liking good basic food faddy. I'd choose the child's lunch over the Costco cake anyday because I'd enjoy it. Chicken, grapes and cheese taste nice. Soreen bars are okay, I'd happily eat one if hungry.

Gold star for you Star

Personally I'd eat that lunch and the cake because life is too short! And I might even put the chicken in a sandwich. Can you believe it. Outrageous.

swimsong · 26/06/2024 19:23

sandyhappypeople · 26/06/2024 13:15

She said there ‘was nothing wrong with the original lunch, my dd(2) would eat similar’, she thought the child was still hungry as she ‘asked to try what op was having’.

if she was still hungry (which is not what she said) she could have topped her up with a bit of what she was having and/or some cake after, not serve her up a other plate of food, and 2 slices of cake on top of that, which the child didn’t even ask for.

it can be inferred from what was supplied by her mum that that is the amount she would normally eat at lunch and you know she’s a healthy normal weight because op has said so, so no issue with starvation etc..

i think op meant well but got too caught up in wanting the child to like her to use her common sense to think that food of that quantity could make her feel unwell later in the day.

You have no idea how much the mum put on her plate or how big the cake slices were - or even how much food volume was in the packed lunch.

S0livagant · 26/06/2024 19:24

Ottervision · 26/06/2024 19:20

Gold star for you Star

Personally I'd eat that lunch and the cake because life is too short! And I might even put the chicken in a sandwich. Can you believe it. Outrageous.

I'd put the chicken in a pitta myself, yes. I wouldn't eat the cake because life is too short to eat food that doesn't taste nice.

Ottervision · 26/06/2024 19:26

S0livagant · 26/06/2024 19:24

I'd put the chicken in a pitta myself, yes. I wouldn't eat the cake because life is too short to eat food that doesn't taste nice.

Ooh pushing the boat out with a whole pitta.

Cake does taste nice and I'm sad for anyone who doesn't like it.

S0livagant · 26/06/2024 19:35

Ottervision · 26/06/2024 19:26

Ooh pushing the boat out with a whole pitta.

Cake does taste nice and I'm sad for anyone who doesn't like it.

I like cake, many kinds of cake. I don't like cake that tastes nasty.

Blondeshavemorefun · 26/06/2024 19:55

Mums lunch has no carbs in it so 7yr was prob hungry

What did you eat /her 2nd lunch

One slice of cake fine

Prob wouldn't have given her a second slice a

Ottervision · 26/06/2024 20:22

S0livagant · 26/06/2024 19:35

I like cake, many kinds of cake. I don't like cake that tastes nasty.

So if you like it why are you being so awfully judge about it? Just because you don't like a specific cake?

I've never had a Costco red velvet cake (I'm not that invested in the brand of it tbh) but at the end of the day it's still a cake. Demonising it is weird.

LuckySantangelo35 · 27/06/2024 13:02

S0livagant · 26/06/2024 19:35

I like cake, many kinds of cake. I don't like cake that tastes nasty.

@S0livagant

in YOUR opinion it tastes nasty Hun, you can’t speak for everyone

LouDeLou · 30/06/2024 17:20

Don't worry, it won't happen again BECAUSE I WON'T BE LOOKING AFTER HER!

Grammarnut · 30/06/2024 20:26

S0livagant · 26/06/2024 19:24

I'd put the chicken in a pitta myself, yes. I wouldn't eat the cake because life is too short to eat food that doesn't taste nice.

I'd only use pitta bread if it was fresh and warm - cold pittas are nasty. What did the child have to drink?

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