To refuse to give my full date of birth to a delivery driver for my online food shop

[LadyLapsang]

I just placed an order for some groceries and provided photo ID on delivery - Oyster 60 plus photo card. The delivery driver refused to leave the shopping, there was one bottle of wine, as I refused to give my full date of birth. No wonder we have so much fraud!

It's the drivers job because their employer told them this. It is literally part of their job duties. It has nothing to do with intelligence. I sometimes think that parts of my job are stupid - I work for the NHS and every time I need to fill up yet another useless form with duplicate details I want to pull my hair out. But it is my job requirement which is in place to comply with the law. I am sure most nursery teachers think it is absolutely a waste of time to produce written reports for 3 year-olds' and they would much rather be teaching them than doing a pointless copy and paste exercise to appease an anxious parent or a government inspector. But they do it because it is part of their job.
Tell me how many times you challenged your employer on some useless crap you have to do at work?

You are ridiculous. What does it matter?! 😂.

Also, since when were government officials trustworthy? And you do realise anyone can work at a polling station.

Yes, this is rubbish.
I'm from another country where this wouldn't be allowed, and, for example, "a quick shop check" wouldn't be allowed either, unless police present atm.
However, it really depends how much fuss you are prepared to get through, how much you want that shopping and the wine.
Simple.
I'm from the Czech Republic btw.

@Catza

Tell me how many times you challenged your employer on some useless crap you have to do at work?

Loads of times. Normally around pointless spreadsheets that no one reads. I was made redundant from my previous job so maybe employers don't like being challenged too much. Or I'm just unlikeable. Who knows.

@LadyLapsang the consensus on this thread is that meh rules is rules. So up to you whether you play along with this nonsense - and provide a fake DoB - or just shop in-store at a different retailer.

I'll continue to call out bollocks like this but I appreciate I'm fighting a losing battle. Rules is rules. Even though no one ever has met a 17 year old who looks 60.

It's exactly the same as when they ask for ID in the store at the till. They wouldn't accept an oyster card there either. For all he knows you might have been a mystery shopper checking for compliance. He's just doing his job why make it more difficult for him

This is not at all true.

@LadyLapsang

FFS, your I.D. will have your date of birth on it. What a ridiculous amount of fuss over nothing!

Also, you're in your 60s, and will look in your 60s (coz why wouldn't you?!)

So why is anyone even asking you for I.D. for anything?!

We are being told to not give data away, it is not the one item but the unscrupulous collect little details from many different sources to clone a complete ID of a person.

Gogogo12345 · Today 08:18

I am a delivery driver. Why is it our problem that the customer doesn't want to comply with the terms and conditions.? No skin off our nose.

As I used to explain to troublesome customers, I've got 3 minutes door to door. I've been here for ten minutes, trying to explain to you and I'll be late for all the following ones, as well as getting home later than I wanted to.

But no, I was a jobsworth cunt who just wanted to make people's lives a misery etc.

What a stupid post.

And that makes all of them honest? Oh OP, if only.

(And before anyone starts, DW was a Civil Servant and one DD is a Local Govt. Officer.)

JuiceBoxJuggler · Today 11:18

What a stupid post.

I was just explaining how it is for delivery drivers.

Jesus, what does it matter? What 'fraud' will he commit with random woman's DOB? Talk about paranoid. The driver won't care, I'm pretty sure he, like you, would be far happier if he wouldn't have to ask all these pointless details and could just hand the goods to you. But it's a box ticking exercise, he needs the date for his tablet.

It's not the age thing either, I'm 36 and look thereabouts, definitely not below 25. Deliveroo, Amazon, Uber Eats, Tesco Whoosh always ask it. Then quickly key it in their tablet without a thought and run for the next delivery. They really don't care how old you are.

See id just say " ok you don't want your stuff then" and mark as customer refused delivery

If it's a pointless box ticking exercise can the driver not just enter some random date themselves and save them the bother of asking the customer?

But this wasn't in a supermarket, so why waste our - and your - time mentioning it ?

Exactly.

Jesus.

They have to enter your DOB into their phone to confirm 18+ for delivery of alcohol/tobacco/knives. Go to the shop next time.

I've got a fake DOB that I use for things like amazon deliveries and websites where my actual DOB doesn't matter. I think of it as being a bit like the King's official birthday.

Every year the stack of junk emails I get on my fake birthday reminds me how many times I've had to use it!

Give 1st Jan and the year

Just hope the driver doesn't ask for proof. As they are trained to.

Due to the op, the poor employees have to mess around picking, packing and delivering her shopping that includes age restricted products. They then had to take all of her shopping back, unpack and put it all back.
Now you're suggesting to add to the mess she has already caused, she needs to call the supermarket to ask why they need a date of birth for age restricted items?
The clue is in age restricted e.g. alcohol?
It doesn't matter if you're old enough, it's age restricted, the company has asked delivery drivers to confirm the date of birth.

How embarrassing. If I behaved like this, I'd be having a word with myself and driving myself to do my shopping so I can't inconvenience people anymore than I already had.
Incredibly entitled.

the company has asked delivery drivers to confirm the date of birth.

Because it will be the driver who is criminally liable if the recipient is underage.

Because someone would be bound to email Head Office saying ‘they didn’t ask for my DOB’ and then they would be sacked.