To be annoyed at the lack of treatment for diabetes as everyone is snapping it up for weight loss?

[lucie82]

Just as the title says really. Myself and other diabetics are having our meds chopped and changed because the pharmacy can't get hold of them. It would seem that they can't get hold of them as people are buying them for weight loss!
Why is everything all about an easy fix with weight loss? If you're taking "weight loss drugs" and not changing your diet and life style then surely once you stop taking them you will put the weight back on?

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

My DH had type 2 diabetes and reversed it by losing 5 stone .(mainly by following Michael Moseley advice )
This has meant a complete overhaul of our lifestyle ,but it can be done .We should be supporting people to make lasting changes not handing out quick fix drugs .

Yes, yes it is. Do you think my obesity isn't a disease?

Correct

So what else was I supposed to do genius?

It’s irrelevant to me what you do.

Thankfully @StarOf your opinion doesn't hold up against the conclusions of medical researchers and organisations. Everyone from WHO to NIH agrees that obesity is a chronic disease and not a behavioural issue. Hence the fact it can be treated by medication designed at regulating hormone production!

But Ozempic is NOT for weight loss! It's purely for diabetes, no more

How you view things is irrelevant to how things actually are 🤷🏼‍♀️

We live in a society now where even eating too much is seen as an illness. The responsibility is always placed on something else and medicalises it, creating (imo) a bigger problem. If it’s an illness then why are some obese people more than happy with their lives and they just admit they love the taste of food? I love nice tasting food, most people do.I can’t be done with this mindset because where does it end? Surely every action we take could be attributed to a psychological issue? We all need to take responsibility for our own health and well being

You're medically qualified?

My thyroid doesn't work - Hashimoto's - and it's very hard, but not impossible, to control my weight because of it.

Knackered thyroid doesn't mean that resigning oneself to constantly overeating is the only possible outcome, and I don't think it helps anyone to imply that it is.

Obesity alone isn’t a disease. Binge eating disorder is.

The people who are spending hundreds of pounds to purchase injections are taking responsibility for their health, so I’m not sure why you’re so bothered.

Correct

Did you read my post properly? I eat a healthy diet. Years and years of trying to lose the 3 stone I gained quickly due to my thyroid have not been possible to lose and I have tried everything. I have not resigned myself to anything, I am taking back control of mu weight by using weight loss injections.

There is too much black and white thinking going on among the fat shamers...

Good for you. And your health is your own private business. If meds are working for you, then as long as enough is reserved for diabetics, then it's no one else's business how you choose to lose weight and people need to butt out of other people's private health matters, unless they are your doctor.
If I ever go on weight loss drugs, I shall be keeping it secret from the interfering, judgy bosom hoikers. So they'll have to find something else to disapprove of.

I think it's great that obese people can get support to change their habits and move towards improving their health.
Sure, it costs a couple of hundred a month but if they're willing to pay then they're likely also willing to do the work that goes along with it.

This punitive "they should be made to suffer without support because they're faaatttttt" attitude is toxic.

Where else do you suggest pharma companies get the money to invest in the research to create these and future new medications to support our health issues?

Obesity is also a health issue. Just one you don't seem to personally care about.

Diabetics are generally started on these injectable drugs when other meds have failed, or are contraindicated. Those people have very limited alternative options to treat their diabetes.
People who are obese have many other options.
So while these drugs are in short supply, I think diabetics should be given priority.
Soon the drug companies will increase manufacture, so there'll be plenty for everyone. But for now, I believe diabetics should be put ahead of people who are obese. Also, we know from previous MN posts that some people lie about their weight to get these drugs, and aren’t actually obese at all.

I can understand your frustration OP.

I don't think many are bothering with ozempic these days.

It's all about Mounjaro now for Weightloss

Funny that, someone tried to say it was an easting disorder inferring it was psychological rather thank medical….

Also it was only very recently it’s been categorised as a disease and there are certainly health professionals who disagree but they can’t go against the grain.

Another reason they decided to call it a disease was to help stop people feeling shame, thus more inclined to seek help - resulting in a healthier population.

I think most people would agree that obesity is not a disease like say…. Breast cancer!

The latter can not be prevented….

Not medically qualified but I don’t need to be.

I agree obesity isn’t a disease.