There's no such thing as an independent female

[Yoyodiet]

I'm so wound up! Earlier, DP said to me he thinks I would benefit from signing up to Andrew Tate's academy course or whatever it is (I like learning about making money online, more out of interest than actually doing it myself). I said probably, but I wouldn't want to fund him as I don't like him. He asked why and I said he's not very nice to/about women. He was aghast and we went back and forth, defending him for the most part when I was reading bits off to him from a BBC article to prove my point. I read the following -

In that same video, he described women as "intrinsically lazy" and said there was "no such thing as an independent female".

...and he was like 'yeah, no women can be independent, you need men'. I couldn't believe it! I won't bore you with the heated discussion that ensued but he genuinely believes that not just I would crumble without a man (him), but all women on the planet if men suddenly disappeared. We would apparently perish in good time because we 'cannot hunt, do electrics, fix a roof or change a tyre'. (To add insult to injury I have qualifications in electrical installation and engineering, I'm pretty sure I could also change a tyre if push came to shove).

Also, I said I think there would be less wars without men - he said there'd me more because women are bitchy?? I said I'm pretty sure men have started a lot more wars than women in history. He pointed in my face and told me women didn't even fight in wars til recently. I reminded him that men made those rules.. 😂

He genuinelyyyyyy believes I'd fall apart without him. Our relationship has been rocky lately but this really made me see a different side to him. He really made me feel like a lesser person and it's made me feel really disappointed since. AIBU to be lying in bed awake stewing over this???

What an absolute wanker.
He needs therapy and lots of it by the sounds of things.

Genuinely, no I haven't. Unless I've been blind to it? This is why I've posted, the conversation has left me feeling really bleughh.

Genuinely, no I haven't. Unless I've been blind to it? This is why I've posted, the conversation has left me feeling really bleughh.

What a total arsehole. It's a shame you have kids with this waste of space.

Hmm. I've always been single - a few boyfriends, but never lived with any of them or anything. My father died when I was in my 20s. I'm now in my 50s. No brother. What man am I meant to be dependent on?

And men claim they are the logical ones...

He's pretty much chipped away at my confidence and self esteem since
He's done a good job on you. What a prick!
It will never get better. Run while you still have the confidence and faith in your ability to thrive without him dragging you down.

@EBearhug similar - my father pissed off when I was a child, and I never bothered dating. Where is the man I'm supposed to have been dependent on for fifty years? I'm glad to say he never materialised. Shit-eating misogynists are ten a penny, and every time I see posts like this, I am even more grateful for being single lifelong.

NGL I've been with my husband for 18 years and love him more than anyone else on earth and if he ever suggested to me that Andrew Tate is anything more than a sweaty gooch he'd find himself divorced quicker than a whippet with a bum full of dynamite.

Well let’s look on the bright side, you’re not married, and you haven’t mentioned kids (unless I missed it), which is going to make it much easier when you leave to become, you know, an independent woman.

@Yoyodiet You're clearly an educated woman with an income of her own so honestly, you'd be OK getting rid. I'm not saying it will be easy (having been there myself), but you deserve respect.

Neither your daughter nor your son need that kind of influence from their dad. Can you imagine the kind of adults he'll shape them into? It's tragic.

If AT is anything to go by, there's no such thing as an independent male, seeing AT makes a living from persuading women to enter the sex trade and to give him the money they make from it.

In my book, that makes AT a parasite, dependent on women.

Does he still believe those things? Just wondering if he is trying to reconcile while still holding some of those views.

Andrew Tate !?!?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm so sorry you are with this moron/proto-hominid
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To think he has finally revealed his true self after 9 years and 2 DC.
Whether you were blinded by love or manipulated and deceived,
at least you know now what kind of women -hating-twat he really is.

When they show you who they are, believe them .

You can’t stay with this misogynistic and truly stupid cunt.

It would be rampantly self-destructive to remain in this gross relationship OP. Sorry you’re having a to deal with it.

Prove him wrong by dumping his arse and fucking off into the sunset.

With the children, of course. I’m sure he’ll be shocked that you’re able to manage with them alone.

You have had blinders on for a very, very long time. You have been ignoring red flags for years. This shit that came out of his mouth isn't new, you've just glossed over it.

He's unequivocally a misogynist and unequivocally wrong. It's time to dump that loser. Keep in mind that men like this often become abusive. That Tate bastard is a rapist and sex trafficker and this guy defends him? Fuck a bunch of that. He looks up to scum because he's scum.

It's not too late to prove him wrong: LTB.

Seriously OP, going by your updates it sounds like you won't just be happier, but you'll also thrive.

They often wear masks when they walk among us.

Just like abuse frequently doesn't start until pregnancy.

So , your partner agreed with AT and wrote your daughter off as 'intrinsically lazy' in the process? I couldn't live with that.

I read as far as “Andrew Tate” and need to know nothing beyond that. Run. Run away screaming. Run far and fast.

Not exactly the same but I had a partner who fell into conspiracy theory videos online (the moon landing was faked etc). I was shocked at the speed at which he was "brainwashed," and he was an intelligent person with no prior leanings towards that kind of thing. The relationship was in its death throes anyways but I still remember being blindsided by how thoroughly he believed it.

What your husband is saying is very frightening in his hatred towards women, I wouldn't feel comfortable and there's your daughter too.

The ball's in your court.

If you stay with him, you've proved him right.