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To loathe Kyle Walker?

284 replies

WilmaFlintstone38 · 16/06/2024 20:43

Independent of his performance in the Euros, I detest this dreadful man with a passion. He really is detestable and revolting. No I'm not being kind.

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Wonderingforever · 17/06/2024 08:52

Zanatdy · 17/06/2024 07:52

Same and all the comments in the gutter press seem to excuse him and make out Lauren to be some psycho stalker. Not saying she’s not but I hate the way his behaviour is excused and she’s vilified. He not only humiliated his wife one, but twice. Now can she forgive that? And to insist he doesn’t see the kids, that’s shocking

I dont think he is getting a pass in the press. His personal life is being dragged through the coals weekly if not daily at this stage.

He isn't seeing his kids because he doesn't want to. If his wife couldn't stop him publicly humiliating her several times. Hiring prostitutes. Including a memorial one that involved a certain so called influencer flying to Hong Kong for a personal call. Then impregnating a woman who isnt her twice I'm not sure why she is somehow responsible for that.

He has the money and legal access to see them if he wanted, but in doing so means keeping the batshit crazy mother of his children in his life.

Lauryn was offered for her son to meet Kyle's other kids she rejected it because she insisted on there for it to happen.

At the end of the day there is 6 kids involved in this mess.

This should be rolled out by clubs as an example of how your actions of the field have the potential to completely fuck up your life. It's all easy money, easy access to women and this falsehood that is separate to their actual lifes.

usernother · 17/06/2024 08:58

@Valhalla17 How naive! She told the paps (having not been seen for a week and it was rumoured they had split up and she was pregnant) she would be at the gym - 8 months pregnant and posed with her jumper and jacket just happening to be lifting up to expose her bump- turned and smiled for the camera.

On two separate occasions.

I'm not at all naive. I know how these things work. I have it on good authority that paps wait around where she goes to the gym (same gym as Colleen Rooney) and take photos. She did not arrange a pap walk.

On two separate occasions.

Cesarina · 17/06/2024 09:04

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 16/06/2024 22:02

I think theyve been together since they were at school, what every first attracted her to him it wasn't money or celebrity

Maybe like Collen she doent know how to be without him

Apologies, thanks for correcting me. I made assumptions based on ignorance.

Allthatwegotisthispalebluedot · 17/06/2024 09:04

JacquesHarlow · 17/06/2024 08:15

I just find it actually incredible that anyone would begin to argue that the primary criteria for the England national side should be selected on the basis of moral values

It's the summer of 2024. We're in the semi-final against Germany. England as ever, labour heavily in the second half, and can't score in extra time, so it's penalties.

And yet we can't put out our strongest penalty taker, Ivan Toney, because he was suspended for betting. We can't put out the man who scored the winning penalty for Manchester City in the Super Cup, because he likes to play around and father multiple children.

We might as well not play in tournaments if that's the case.

The pearl clutching and wailing on here is really confounding. He didn't cheat on you?

Or MAYBE people in highly rewarded positions might behave themselves a bit more if there were real world consequences for their appalling actions? Wanking in a spa is criminal behaviour. If i did that, I would face criminal charges and lose my job. You probably would too. Why should he be treated differently?

It’s not really about him cheating on his wife - his sexual incontinence has resulted in two children growing up in an absolutely circus, largely unacknowledged by their father and sold out for cash by their mother. Six children, if you include the children he has with his wife (although they are more protected). The kids don’t deserve that. That’s why I judge him. He’s a cunt. Forgive me if I’m not creaming at the gash like you seem to be over him being able to score a few pens.

RedHelenB · 17/06/2024 09:06

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The management should bar him if that's true.

FrancisSeaton · 17/06/2024 09:15

His wife isn't a poor little victim in all this.
She knows what he's like and does the pick me dance each time he starts bringing a new innocent child into the mix. I have no idea why everyone seems to pity her so much she's bringing those children up in such a toxic environment

Cesarina · 17/06/2024 09:17

I repeat that I stand corrected about Walker's wife. I ignorantly assumed she was attracted to him for his wealth, not realising they'd been together since their teens. So I also apologise again.
My disgust was and is directed at him, not the 2 women who are his childrens' mothers.
I still feel there should be no room in an England team for Walker, as, football aside, he is an appalling and disgraceful role model for boys who would love to be famous footballers.

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 17/06/2024 09:20

I don't know why Annie gets so much stick, before the tramp you didn't hear anything about her. The tramp comes along and starts selling her wares stories and Annie fights back with a couple of pap shots.

Also if she's been with him since 15, he's all she's ever known. It's probably quite scary the thought of starting again. It was for me at 40 and my ex wasn't my only relationship.

As for him, he's disgusting and should thank his lucky stars Annie hasn't taken him to the cleaners yet. He's also thick as mince, there are several rumours going around that Lauryn wanted a footballer and has been passed around so why he went there not once but twice is anyone's guess.

OhmygodDont · 17/06/2024 09:25

Tho imagine being Lauren and admitting to the press he called you Annie’s name during sex 😂😂🙃🙃 💀 that wouldn’t pass my lips.

Look weather Annie leaves to stays she is the victim of having a shitty cheating husband, who cheated with a women who’s like to blame everything on her. He was single and still didn’t want her other than for booty calls now she’s butt hurt with her blogs and insta shade posts.

Annie can’t stop him cheating, annoy can’t make him stay and she couldn’t stop him seeing his other children.

All she can do is stay or leave and sometimes staying is actually better for your children if it can mean you can stop deranged people from being in their lives.

JacquesHarlow · 17/06/2024 09:55

Allthatwegotisthispalebluedot · 17/06/2024 09:04

Or MAYBE people in highly rewarded positions might behave themselves a bit more if there were real world consequences for their appalling actions? Wanking in a spa is criminal behaviour. If i did that, I would face criminal charges and lose my job. You probably would too. Why should he be treated differently?

It’s not really about him cheating on his wife - his sexual incontinence has resulted in two children growing up in an absolutely circus, largely unacknowledged by their father and sold out for cash by their mother. Six children, if you include the children he has with his wife (although they are more protected). The kids don’t deserve that. That’s why I judge him. He’s a cunt. Forgive me if I’m not creaming at the gash like you seem to be over him being able to score a few pens.

and thank you @Allthatwegotisthispalebluedot for another exhibit of why Mumsnet is a really toxic, weird place at times.

I come on here and make a possibly polarising, very mildly controversial point about Walker’s private life not being a factor for selection.

You come back with a really weird accusation that I’m, and I quote, “creaming at the gash” because I happen to recognise he is a decent footballer.

I guess as per many on here, you’re hoping to verbally wound me to discredit what I’m saying.

If you’re that excitable about these alleged spa happenstances, why not retrain in law and go and work for the CPS to then decide which cases get brought to trial?

Zanatdy · 17/06/2024 09:56

Wonderingforever · 17/06/2024 08:52

I dont think he is getting a pass in the press. His personal life is being dragged through the coals weekly if not daily at this stage.

He isn't seeing his kids because he doesn't want to. If his wife couldn't stop him publicly humiliating her several times. Hiring prostitutes. Including a memorial one that involved a certain so called influencer flying to Hong Kong for a personal call. Then impregnating a woman who isnt her twice I'm not sure why she is somehow responsible for that.

He has the money and legal access to see them if he wanted, but in doing so means keeping the batshit crazy mother of his children in his life.

Lauryn was offered for her son to meet Kyle's other kids she rejected it because she insisted on there for it to happen.

At the end of the day there is 6 kids involved in this mess.

This should be rolled out by clubs as an example of how your actions of the field have the potential to completely fuck up your life. It's all easy money, easy access to women and this falsehood that is separate to their actual lifes.

he did see his kids, on the quiet as Annie said he wasn’t to be involved apart from financially. But now he’s not again. Innocent kids caught up in some illicit affair. I wouldn’t have the conscience to tell a father he was to have no contact. He clearly does want contact or he wouldn’t have started seeing the older one (and then got Lauren pregnant)

MattDamon · 17/06/2024 09:58

OhmygodDont · 17/06/2024 08:24

Pretty sure this was the papers. Now annonamised. However not really hard to piece together. Back in court next month according to tattle for baby girls revision.

https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/623cbb95b50db948c50f282e?utm_source=amp&target=amp_jtext

forgot to add the link 😂

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She is obviously a piece of work, but the way the judge was praising the father throughout was disgusting. He openly refuses to have anything to do with his son, but he gave calm and straightforward answers in his testimony so deserves credit for that?? <slow clap> No mention of his disgusting behaviour in his personal life at all.

The fact that the father said he'd pay for nursery but not a (£36k/year, very reasonable) nanny screams controlling. If you aren't involved, you shouldn't get to dictate how the childcare fund is spent. But the judge sided with him. I actually felt a bit sorry for her by the end!

araiwa · 17/06/2024 10:00

I'm more concerned about his footballing skills

Couldn't care less about gossip

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 17/06/2024 10:00

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 17/06/2024 09:20

I don't know why Annie gets so much stick, before the tramp you didn't hear anything about her. The tramp comes along and starts selling her wares stories and Annie fights back with a couple of pap shots.

Also if she's been with him since 15, he's all she's ever known. It's probably quite scary the thought of starting again. It was for me at 40 and my ex wasn't my only relationship.

As for him, he's disgusting and should thank his lucky stars Annie hasn't taken him to the cleaners yet. He's also thick as mince, there are several rumours going around that Lauryn wanted a footballer and has been passed around so why he went there not once but twice is anyone's guess.

You might not have heard anything about her but I know her from Real Housewives of Cheshire years ago as Im sure lots of other people do, she voluntarily joined a reality programme

usernother · 17/06/2024 10:05

The Walker's hired a top PR team when Goodman kept releasing stories in the press that had misinformation in them. They have employed Rachel Monk, who also worked for Coleen Rooney and was a witness in the Vardy trial. Goodman has partnered with someone who was allegedly sacked from the Sun to be her PR advisor. For those of you who don't know, Lauren (that's how her name is actually spelled) Goodman has been goading Annie on social media for years. She seems to blame Annie for Kyle not choosing to set up home with her. She also allegedly rang Annie on Boxing Day to inform her that Kyle was the father of her, unnamed in public, second child. The Walkers offered to let Kairo (Goodman's son) visit them and meet his half brothers, but Goodman refused because she wanted to be included. The whole situation is a mess, caused by Kyle. I too think he is an awful, awful man. I also think that Annie stays with him because that way she has some sort of control as to who he lets in the lives of their sons. As I said before, I feel very, very sorry for Annie. Kyle has very recently set up a football academy in Sheffield, perhaps to try and repair his reputation. I agree that his vile behaviour is a very bad example to set to football supporters and I think he should have not continued to be Captain of Man City and definitely not the vice captain of England for the Euros.

usernother · 17/06/2024 10:07

@BarcardiWithGadaffia
You might not have heard anything about her but I know her from Real Housewives of Cheshire years ago as Im sure lots of other people do, she voluntarily joined a reality programme

As far as I remember it was a guest appearance in one episode. The very short time she was on screen she looked shocked at what the other members of the cast were saying and she wasn't in it again.

Allthatwegotisthispalebluedot · 17/06/2024 10:08

JacquesHarlow · 17/06/2024 09:55

and thank you @Allthatwegotisthispalebluedot for another exhibit of why Mumsnet is a really toxic, weird place at times.

I come on here and make a possibly polarising, very mildly controversial point about Walker’s private life not being a factor for selection.

You come back with a really weird accusation that I’m, and I quote, “creaming at the gash” because I happen to recognise he is a decent footballer.

I guess as per many on here, you’re hoping to verbally wound me to discredit what I’m saying.

If you’re that excitable about these alleged spa happenstances, why not retrain in law and go and work for the CPS to then decide which cases get brought to trial?

Because it’s not my job to retrain and go and work for the CPS. They already have people who do that, and I already have a job.

Calm down hun. It isn’t toxic or weird to suggest that badly behaved men who are appalling fathers shouldn’t be celebrated and paid millions. It’s not a race to the bottom. Raise your standards.

Harvestfestivalknickers · 17/06/2024 10:34

MattDamon · 17/06/2024 09:58

She is obviously a piece of work, but the way the judge was praising the father throughout was disgusting. He openly refuses to have anything to do with his son, but he gave calm and straightforward answers in his testimony so deserves credit for that?? <slow clap> No mention of his disgusting behaviour in his personal life at all.

The fact that the father said he'd pay for nursery but not a (£36k/year, very reasonable) nanny screams controlling. If you aren't involved, you shouldn't get to dictate how the childcare fund is spent. But the judge sided with him. I actually felt a bit sorry for her by the end!

I read the judgement and came to a different conclusion - I feel for her grandparents who gave her a huge loan which she expected the father to repay! What a way to treat your elderly grandparents!
She came across as totally greedy - 69K for a Mercedes? Paying her Mum thousands for childcare while she brought in a few hundred a month from 'influencing'. Totally unreasonable, Fendi changing bag? Louis Vuitton hand luggage?
I think she saw him as the Golden Goose.

OhmygodDont · 17/06/2024 10:38

Harvestfestivalknickers · 17/06/2024 10:34

I read the judgement and came to a different conclusion - I feel for her grandparents who gave her a huge loan which she expected the father to repay! What a way to treat your elderly grandparents!
She came across as totally greedy - 69K for a Mercedes? Paying her Mum thousands for childcare while she brought in a few hundred a month from 'influencing'. Totally unreasonable, Fendi changing bag? Louis Vuitton hand luggage?
I think she saw him as the Golden Goose.

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That’s they the kids get called klarna and clearpay on that other site. Purely had for financial reasons. It’s all about how much she can get. Wanted to be a top wag.

Imagine the kids dad not being interested but you keep forcing your child to watch them on tv and according to the press will be taking them to the matches. Like there’s your daddy who cnba oh and theirs his other children who he cares about. That’s poor parenting.

His still a shit and a wanker and a gross ass man. But Lauren got most of what she wanted a payday, not a wag but she keeps trying that’s why she’s always blaming Annie. The innocent party.

Beezknees · 17/06/2024 10:42

YANBU. A vile man.

MattDamon · 17/06/2024 10:50

Harvestfestivalknickers · 17/06/2024 10:34

I read the judgement and came to a different conclusion - I feel for her grandparents who gave her a huge loan which she expected the father to repay! What a way to treat your elderly grandparents!
She came across as totally greedy - 69K for a Mercedes? Paying her Mum thousands for childcare while she brought in a few hundred a month from 'influencing'. Totally unreasonable, Fendi changing bag? Louis Vuitton hand luggage?
I think she saw him as the Golden Goose.

Edited

That's not really a different conclusion? I said she's a piece of work.

But he's equally awful and the judge pandered to him.

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 17/06/2024 10:52

OhmygodDont · 17/06/2024 10:38

That’s they the kids get called klarna and clearpay on that other site. Purely had for financial reasons. It’s all about how much she can get. Wanted to be a top wag.

Imagine the kids dad not being interested but you keep forcing your child to watch them on tv and according to the press will be taking them to the matches. Like there’s your daddy who cnba oh and theirs his other children who he cares about. That’s poor parenting.

His still a shit and a wanker and a gross ass man. But Lauren got most of what she wanted a payday, not a wag but she keeps trying that’s why she’s always blaming Annie. The innocent party.

And to think she's going to be on a show about wags. Not sure how or why she's on there, she isn't a wag and will never be a wag, she is just some slapper who slept with a footballer (or two or three, Kyle was the thick vile idiot to get her pregnant).

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Fucking hell that's grim

waterrat · 17/06/2024 11:06

I feel very sorry for all his kids - including Laurens - she will regret parading them around in the limelight like this as they will grow up knowing that their dad tried to avoid them and that they were dragged about in england shirts just for the publicity.

I do think annie sadly is in the wrong to say he shouldn't see his own kids. Hard as it is for her - he should have a relationship with them. She should just step in and ensure lauren doesn't get to share that contact.

I feel sorry for his wife as he is probably a controlling lying arsehole and she is sadly for her in love with him. how he treated her is beyond humilating but they have 4 kids together and she is stuck in a dynamic with him especially with a newborn.

She may fear that he woudl go to Lauren if she kicked him out permanently and that would be paraded in front of her forever.

obviously she should end it though! But hard to do when it is all you have known and you have such young children together.

Reading about it I thought - if Annie really wanted to get one over on Lauren - her and Kyle, instead of ignoring the kids - should go for 50 / 50 custody and just say - okay, you want him in your life then hand the kids over.

waterrat · 17/06/2024 11:08

@OhmygodDont totally agree its so sad to see the kids dragged about when the dad is publically saying he doesn't want them around - they are going to grow up and realise what was happening - and that is some serious years of therapy !