To loathe Kyle Walker?

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Independent of his performance in the Euros, I detest this dreadful man with a passion. He really is detestable and revolting. No I'm not being kind.

If they went to court - no court would order that Lauren had to be involved in contact - Kyle walker and annie could just say - drop them off every other week X o clock and they would get that access.

I think Annie is making a mistake refusing to let him see them. It just leads to all the cringy behaviour like lauren parading them around - in the end he is dad to those kids - painful as it is annie shld suck that up.

I think she knows that if she kicked him out permanently - and he was seeing his boys he would be shagging lauren again fairly quickly

I think I read previously that Annie was happy to allow contact and have the children at their family home, but Lauryn refused and wants Kyle to see them on his own/at Lauryn’s house.

I’m sure I’ve seen the same. Annie says it’s cool but Lauren wants to be there during contact and doesn’t trust Annie to look after her children.

If he was convicted of criminal offence (eg, indecent exposure if it could be proved the spa rumours were true), then England would not select him.

But apart from criminal convictions, I don't think your employer should decide whether to employ or promote you based on your private life. If everyone is a consenting adult, then it's not relevant to your employer if you choose to have sex with one, two, three or multiple people at the same time.

If you show up for work on time and do a good job, then anything else is not your employer's business.

England are selecting him to play football, not to be a role model. They also don't decide if he promoted products etc - those are commercial decisions made by other companies choosong to employ him. If they think he tarnishes their perfume/vitamin/clothes brand, they won't employ him.

If someone sees him as a role model, that is on them. Not everyone in the public eye has a moral obligation to behave in a certain way, be married, faithful, demure etc, just because of the risk someone might admire them.

He is a terrible man. But I wouldn't want my employer to make decisions about me based on my private life, so it would be hypocritical to expect the same for him

@xxSideshowAuntSallyxx And to think she's going to be on a show about wags. Not sure how or why she's on there, she isn't a wag and will never be a wag.

I've read that it's Goodman who is making the show about wags and girlfriends. She, in conjunction with her manager, has set up the production company.

I mean to some extent what you say makes sense, but there’s a somewhat circular argument in there, isn’t there? We as a society reward these men who behave appallingly towards women (even men like Boris Johnson who is also odious and sexually incontinent). It SHOULD tarnish brands to be associated with these twats but it doesn’t because we give them a free pass (for reasons unknown to me) because they’re good at football or whatever so they become role models, regardless of whether they’re up to the job or not. No one is entitled to represent their country and earn millions, are they? It would be great if we all just raised our standards a bit and made it absolutely unacceptable for them to behave like this.

What the fuck does she want a nanny for?? It’s not like she has a job… and now that she’s getting nearly £100k a year, a free £1.35m house (and a £75k lump sum to buy furniture), a free car every four years and all nursery and school fees paid, it’s safe to say she doesn’t need one.

She also wanted, in lump sums-

£316,133 to pay off her debts
£9k for gynaecology treatment
£13k for “security and moving costs”

This was all on the basis of her having just the one child by the way… now she’s got another one she’s going back for more.

It’s just greed.

I didn't say a word about Annie or Lauren. Think you have the wrong poster!

I completely agree as a society we should judge these men poorly and there should be no brand benefits to associating with them.

But that requires society to change - it isn't the case for any individual employer to make that decision on behalf of society. Brands won't hire Walker if there is no benefit to them.

We should stop thinking that people who are rich should be role models.
Very few (possibly no) people who become very rich do so while being nice, upstanding, moral characters.
Whether in business or sport, success at that level of wealth requires you to be selfish, to take advantage of others (in a business deal or in a match or against your own colleagues/team mates), reduce costs, avoid tax, fire people, .

Being very rich would ideally be treated with suspicion rather than with the assumption that they are to be a moral role model.

Agree. The women are just as gross, they stand by him no matter what so their morals are all aligned.

Because she's (or was at the time) a single parent who had 100% custody?

It's moot anyway, because he had already agreed to the additional funds for childcare. What they were arguing over was how to spend it, which was none of his business.

@Valhalla17 omg I'm so sorry, I did have the wrong person. I meant @LuluBlakey1

I don’t know who he is.

If Kyle walker and Annie were committed to seeing those boys properly they could and would go to court and have a proper contact arrangement put in place that would have absolutely zero to do with Lauren and her wanting it to be at her house etc - surely?

They should just get a proper arrangement and she would have to drop the kids off each week like countless other separated/ single parents do.

Apart from the children I feel very sorry for Kyle walkers wife annie - she didn't ask for this and his behaiour means she is stuck in this ongoing drama - even if she left him permanently Lauren is there riling her/ winding her up on SM>

for life! what a burden. You would have to be a seriously zen person to not get worked up by it.

Well I’ve just seen the pics of the wife at the Euros last night and I really don’t see how anyone could think they’re together??!

She looks at him with what to me looks like pure contempt. She’s there because of her kids. Not because of him. And no wedding ring on.

Just because the mistress plasters herself all over the place doesn’t mean the wife has to air her dirty laundry.

His wife has done absolutely nothing wrong and shouldn’t be lumped in with those two morally corrupt individuals.

@MojoMoon Most of us keep our private lives out of the workplace. This guy can't, everything is in the public eye. For all I know my boss could spend every night at a swingers' club and I'd never know, but he's a great boss.

I respect Kyle Walker.

Why?

He's a copper bottomed ocean going arsehole of the highest order.

Said it like a pro. 😂 👏

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I can't work the wife out. She'd get a good financial settlement, so I can't understand why she's still with him. Fathering a child with another woman twice?! That's unforgiveable. How's he going to explain that to his other children when they get old enough to know/understand? Yes he'll probably crawl back to Lauren or find another Instagrammer but is that reason enough to stay? I'd rather have my self respect. And his career will be on it's last breath in a few years anyway.

Would you also want the possibility of 50:50 and him letting any of those random women wag wonna be gold digging women near your children?

Personally I’d stick it out till the youngest would be deemed old enough to decide in the eyes of a court than let someone like Lauren play arsemummy

Thank you for your insightful contribution to the discussion.

Does it take up much time informing the Internet of things you dont know?

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that regardless of feminist doctrine, I think women bear more responsibility than men for contraception. We have more choice of contraception, it’s free, it’s more permanent and efficient than condoms, and ultimately we are the ones who would get pregnant. We need to take responsibility for ourselves and not be a passive victim.

And the last thing LG wants is for KW to stop playing football and be binned off because of his seedy reputation. How would he pay her maintenance then? She loves the fact he’s a footballer, do you honestly think she would’ve kept an accidental pregnancy by a stranger from a nightclub? Of course not. She knew what she was doing.

As for him, he’s utterly seedy and can’t keep it in his pants.