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To loathe Kyle Walker?

284 replies

WilmaFlintstone38 · 16/06/2024 20:43

Independent of his performance in the Euros, I detest this dreadful man with a passion. He really is detestable and revolting. No I'm not being kind.

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LuluBlakey1 · 17/06/2024 00:21

usernother · 16/06/2024 22:13

I don't think his wife is rough at all. I think Annie is beautiful and she seems to try and live a private life. I feel very sorry for her.

How naive! She told the paps (having not been seen for a week and it was rumoured they had split up and she was pregnant) she would be at the gym - 8 months pregnant and posed with her jumper and jacket just happening to be lifting up to expose her bump- turned and smiled for the camera.

On two separate occasions.

LouH1981 · 17/06/2024 00:23

I’ve banned my 9 year old from using him on FC24. If he slips through the net, I just heckle him from the virtual sidelines.
Glad it’s not just me! 😂

ACynicalDad · 17/06/2024 00:25

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The All Blacks have a simple selection policy - no wankers, the FA should implement that too, he’d be out straight away.

Valhalla17 · 17/06/2024 00:29

He should not be in the England team at all. The example he sets young men is disgraceful. Maybe if he'd been sacked from England it would make younger players coming up behave differently and show what is expected of players!
Honestly he makes me sick

Theemeperorsnewclothes · 17/06/2024 00:32

It’s utterly disgusting that the media pit these women against each other and constantly bring up the amount of child support that the ‘other woman’ receives. HE fathered those children therefore they are morally and legally his responsibility to support. The end. The entire lot of them are morally corrupt however the children are not, and society needs to catch up with this. YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. It is of public interest as the UK has a disgraceful approach to single mothers and their social standing and financial support. The CMS system is seriously corrupt and flawed and this narrative against single mothers is a useful political tool. This individual (the man, who was married, and went on to have not one, but two children) is clearly morally corrupt however we should not let this us distract from the bigger picture. Over 90% of resident parents are female and the vast majority are financially bringing this countries children up on their own due to a woefully inadequate system, disgraceful prejudice and discrimination in our country, a lack of political will to support children and single mothers. This nonsense story is not the reality for most single mothers. We do not need this distraction. We need action. Billions are owed in unpaid child support. What political party is going to actually address this in their manifesto for the next election?

Wonderingforever · 17/06/2024 00:34

I do think organisations like the FA and other professionals sports organisations etc should have stronger rules on off field behaviour because some of things professional sports men get away with is shocking.

Wonderingforever · 17/06/2024 00:43

@Theemeperorsnewclothes she is not a representative of most single mothers. Actually the amount he pays is relevant to her commentary publicly about her, him and the children.

She is also responsible morally and legally to contribute to their up bringing fincially which she isn't. Before you go on a crusade of defending Lauren Goodman as a poor abandoned single mother and it being a public interest story. I suggest you read the court documents. In which the judge was not backwards in coming forward about her financial demands.

He isn't responsible for her attaching herself to the label of single mother to invoke sympathy of the public for her. I have absolutely none. She is an awful mother emotionally and financially, and he is an absent father emotionally but funds her and the children's life style.

Theemeperorsnewclothes · 17/06/2024 00:54

Wonderingforever · 17/06/2024 00:43

@Theemeperorsnewclothes she is not a representative of most single mothers. Actually the amount he pays is relevant to her commentary publicly about her, him and the children.

She is also responsible morally and legally to contribute to their up bringing fincially which she isn't. Before you go on a crusade of defending Lauren Goodman as a poor abandoned single mother and it being a public interest story. I suggest you read the court documents. In which the judge was not backwards in coming forward about her financial demands.

He isn't responsible for her attaching herself to the label of single mother to invoke sympathy of the public for her. I have absolutely none. She is an awful mother emotionally and financially, and he is an absent father emotionally but funds her and the children's life style.

You are correct. She is absolutely not a representative of most single mothers. Just to reassure you, I was never going on a “crusade of defending Lauren Goodman” my crusade has always been, and always will be, advocating for all the single mothers who are disgracefully let down by the government/CMS system and the need for political will to change the narrative and systems to ensure single mothers and children receive the support from ‘fathers’ that they should morally and legally be entitled too… without an unfair fight, or constantly being subjected to social prejudice. Hope that helps.

WayMeanWood · 17/06/2024 07:35

Sherrystrull · 16/06/2024 23:13

It's pretty clear at 15 who will be a professional footballer. Their track has been set since they were 6/7. Meeting someone at 15 who is already in an academy team etc and being shocked they become a footballer is unlikely.

I don't think you understand the pyramid nature of academies at all.

DontBiteTheCat · 17/06/2024 07:47

@Wonderingforever I don’t suppose you have a link to the court papers do you please? Google search is just bringing up a lot of TikTok pages and I’d like to read them.

Artesia · 17/06/2024 07:49

"The All Blacks have a simple selection policy - no wankers, the FA should implement that too, he’d be out straight away."

I wish they did. But, off the top of my head, Byron Kelleher (domestic violence and drink driving), Sevu Reece (domestic violence) and Aaron Smith (sex scandal) class as wankers who carried on being selected. A

Zanatdy · 17/06/2024 07:52

Same and all the comments in the gutter press seem to excuse him and make out Lauren to be some psycho stalker. Not saying she’s not but I hate the way his behaviour is excused and she’s vilified. He not only humiliated his wife one, but twice. Now can she forgive that? And to insist he doesn’t see the kids, that’s shocking

JacquesHarlow · 17/06/2024 07:53

Valhalla17 · 17/06/2024 00:29

He should not be in the England team at all. The example he sets young men is disgraceful. Maybe if he'd been sacked from England it would make younger players coming up behave differently and show what is expected of players!
Honestly he makes me sick

I'm sorry @Valhalla17 but this kind of pearl clutching comment is really quite ridiculous.

I don't see professional footballers as needing to be paragons of society. I really don't.

In fact I would argue that with the lifestyle they have at a young age, and the fact that some of them come from troubled backgrounds, it is very unlikely they will be paragons.

They need to stay within the law of course, and within the covenants and rules of consent which everyone on here accepts as minimum. I won't name the players here but a former Manchester United forward, now on loan in Spain's La Liga, and a Preston North End striker who was at Sheffield United when charges were brought... these players are rightly cast out of the English game and the national side.

I think Kyle Walker is perhaps in the top 5 players in his footballing position, in the world at the moment. He is brilliant at going forward, he is excellent at recovery and tracking back, his pace is unreal for someone in his 30s.

No I don't want to sleep with him. Yes I think his behaviour is poor, but that's between him, his partner and the woman who keeps calling the paps.

Us judging him will do absolutely f all.

Good luck to him and the England national side.

Itllfalloff · 17/06/2024 07:54

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IS that true? Watched a pre Euro interview that he was on and he just seems thick as mince.

iloveshetlandponies · 17/06/2024 07:54

Yep the whole situation is gross 🤢

Zanatdy · 17/06/2024 07:55

TeaPleaseX · 16/06/2024 23:07

It makes me laugh when people say Annie is with him for money.
They've been together since they was kids. Their dads are also old friends possibly childhood friends too.
Most of his business's are in her name. They've four kids together. She doesn't court the limelight like Lauren does. She will always be fine for money with or without himConfused.
And she doesn't show her kids faces which I like.
They are usually blurred out when papped at matches.
She's a nice woman very quiet around here.
Just clearly loves him very much and I doubt she'd ever leave. She's another Colleen. It's a shame.

Many of the pics of them together are backgrid which means they called the papa and setup staged photos. There’s a lot of them, even recently after the birth of baby no 4

JacquesHarlow · 17/06/2024 07:55

iloveshetlandponies · 17/06/2024 07:54

Yep the whole situation is gross 🤢

...but is exactly how much of your concern?

Itllfalloff · 17/06/2024 07:57

JacquesHarlow · 17/06/2024 07:53

I'm sorry @Valhalla17 but this kind of pearl clutching comment is really quite ridiculous.

I don't see professional footballers as needing to be paragons of society. I really don't.

In fact I would argue that with the lifestyle they have at a young age, and the fact that some of them come from troubled backgrounds, it is very unlikely they will be paragons.

They need to stay within the law of course, and within the covenants and rules of consent which everyone on here accepts as minimum. I won't name the players here but a former Manchester United forward, now on loan in Spain's La Liga, and a Preston North End striker who was at Sheffield United when charges were brought... these players are rightly cast out of the English game and the national side.

I think Kyle Walker is perhaps in the top 5 players in his footballing position, in the world at the moment. He is brilliant at going forward, he is excellent at recovery and tracking back, his pace is unreal for someone in his 30s.

No I don't want to sleep with him. Yes I think his behaviour is poor, but that's between him, his partner and the woman who keeps calling the paps.

Us judging him will do absolutely f all.

Good luck to him and the England national side.

These players are roles models for many young kids- so I don’t care how well he kicks a ball, it does matter that he’s a shit bag.

Zanatdy · 17/06/2024 07:58

LuluBlakey1 · 17/06/2024 00:21

How naive! She told the paps (having not been seen for a week and it was rumoured they had split up and she was pregnant) she would be at the gym - 8 months pregnant and posed with her jumper and jacket just happening to be lifting up to expose her bump- turned and smiled for the camera.

On two separate occasions.

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Yes the photos are backgrid, which means they arranged the shoot. Nearly all the photos you see of celebs are backgrid. She doesn’t stay away out of her limelight - when someone is in the press about Lauren there’s a photo of Annie leaving the gym etc, all backgrid of course. Both as bad as each other

JacquesHarlow · 17/06/2024 08:11

Zanatdy · 17/06/2024 07:55

Many of the pics of them together are backgrid which means they called the papa and setup staged photos. There’s a lot of them, even recently after the birth of baby no 4

I don't see how this is something worthy of comment?

He is a philanderer. This means his partner has been wronged multiple times.

One mechanism she has in her armour is to put out positive PR stories to show family unity. That is her choice, one I and many others disagree with, but she has access to the mechanisms that allow her to do just that.

JacquesHarlow · 17/06/2024 08:15

Itllfalloff · 17/06/2024 07:57

These players are roles models for many young kids- so I don’t care how well he kicks a ball, it does matter that he’s a shit bag.

I just find it actually incredible that anyone would begin to argue that the primary criteria for the England national side should be selected on the basis of moral values

It's the summer of 2024. We're in the semi-final against Germany. England as ever, labour heavily in the second half, and can't score in extra time, so it's penalties.

And yet we can't put out our strongest penalty taker, Ivan Toney, because he was suspended for betting. We can't put out the man who scored the winning penalty for Manchester City in the Super Cup, because he likes to play around and father multiple children.

We might as well not play in tournaments if that's the case.

The pearl clutching and wailing on here is really confounding. He didn't cheat on you?

OhmygodDont · 17/06/2024 08:24

DontBiteTheCat · 17/06/2024 07:47

@Wonderingforever I don’t suppose you have a link to the court papers do you please? Google search is just bringing up a lot of TikTok pages and I’d like to read them.

Pretty sure this was the papers. Now annonamised. However not really hard to piece together. Back in court next month according to tattle for baby girls revision.

https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/623cbb95b50db948c50f282e?utm_source=amp&target=amp_jtext

forgot to add the link 😂

Valhalla17 · 17/06/2024 08:28

JacquesHarlow · 17/06/2024 07:53

I'm sorry @Valhalla17 but this kind of pearl clutching comment is really quite ridiculous.

I don't see professional footballers as needing to be paragons of society. I really don't.

In fact I would argue that with the lifestyle they have at a young age, and the fact that some of them come from troubled backgrounds, it is very unlikely they will be paragons.

They need to stay within the law of course, and within the covenants and rules of consent which everyone on here accepts as minimum. I won't name the players here but a former Manchester United forward, now on loan in Spain's La Liga, and a Preston North End striker who was at Sheffield United when charges were brought... these players are rightly cast out of the English game and the national side.

I think Kyle Walker is perhaps in the top 5 players in his footballing position, in the world at the moment. He is brilliant at going forward, he is excellent at recovery and tracking back, his pace is unreal for someone in his 30s.

No I don't want to sleep with him. Yes I think his behaviour is poor, but that's between him, his partner and the woman who keeps calling the paps.

Us judging him will do absolutely f all.

Good luck to him and the England national side.

I don't give a flying fig how good he is. I'm a hugely knowledgeable football fan and youth coach. Unfortunately footballers are looked up to and idolised by many young people. Footballers also generally believed to be a bit sleazy etc due to behaviours we've seen over the many many years of a high number of these players.

Maybe if this disgraceful off-pitch behaviour and poor example had real repercussions, such as not being able to play for country, then these players might actually start to take things seriously, get some morals and lead by example? We might then get a better group of young players making their way through who can be role models. We need more Declan Rice's
.....not more Kyle Walkers in football.

Playing for country is a privilege and I think you do need to be a decent (not perfect) human being, given you are representing England.

NashvilleQueen · 17/06/2024 08:38

I think it's a bit more than his marital infidelity. There's also the use of prostitutes (during the pandemic) and the exposing himself in a public place at least once.

He can play for his club. That's a matter for them entirely. I do wonder whether England players should be expected to behave by certain standards though.

Also it doesn't really matter how good he is at football. There's not a matrix that says you can get away with worse behaviour because you're better at playing or have harsher sanctions because you're less good.

Zanatdy · 17/06/2024 08:51

JacquesHarlow · 17/06/2024 08:11

I don't see how this is something worthy of comment?

He is a philanderer. This means his partner has been wronged multiple times.

One mechanism she has in her armour is to put out positive PR stories to show family unity. That is her choice, one I and many others disagree with, but she has access to the mechanisms that allow her to do just that.

I’m commenting on the fact people are suggesting she should be left alone etc, she’s courting the press just as much. These articles are aimed at the other woman. There’s a lot of innocent children involved in this mess

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