Two 12 year old boys have been convicted of murder after stabbing a 19 year old man with a machete

[AngeloMysterioso]

AIBU to be gobsmacked and just terrified by this?!

I mean what the fuck are a pair of 12 year olds doing with a machete in the first place??

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz99py9rgz5o

We need more Stop and Search not less of it.

My oldest is 12. It honestly puts the fear of God in me when I see stories like this.

He walked his little brother, 10, to school this morning and I was on pins until he called me to say he'd A dropped him off and B, he'd got to school himself. I don't live near any big cities but it's still a big worry

The parents should be in the dock with them . It's horrifying.

They are children, they have terrible judgement - the most dangerous age is 14.

It's just so sad, for all concerned.

Bloody hell, that is awful.

Will there be an investigation to establish how a 12 year old got his hands on a machete? Surely that is a crime in itself?

I just can't understand why any 12 year old (or anyone at all actually) would do this, what 'motive' could there possibly be?

Agreed.

I'd rather my child be searched and found not to have a knife, then be stabbed by one because the police were too afraid of someone's feelings.

Bit more than terrible judgement isn't it really

At 12 years of age they know right from wrong.

A "man" of 19? he´s a teenager, hardly a man.

God this is horrific. That poor poor young man and his parents. He should have been safe to seek his needed medical care. He had his whole life ahead of him and that's gone now.

It’s so shocking.
It needs looking into as to how/where they got the machete from but this wasn’t kids mucking around or being silly with a dangerous weapon, they actually stabbed this guy with it as well as battering him with it.
I just can’t comprehend this at all, they’re 12

We do need more Stop and Search and I also believe that they should be named.
I can't see the point of giving them anonymity: either they are old enough to be punished, in which case why not name them or they aren't.
If they aren't, then whoever has legal responsibility for them should be punished.

And we need less of this sort of rubbish.

sorry if you dont like scientific truths

But also why are they able to get hold of a machete - I wouldn’t even know where to get one and I’m 34. I’d assume if they even sell them at Homebase (what is a machete even for??) that I would need ID. So the adults in their lives should indeed be in the dock with them as PP said.

Agree more stop and search and a LOT more name and shame.

And also where the hell do they get the nerve to attack someone? Kids are clearly fucked up by their adults (who else would it come down to if not the adults? Born evil to good parents??) to have the ability to do that.

Killing a man with a machete isn't 'judgement'

Incidents like this send chills through me- the fact that you can be minding your own business, not looking for trouble with anyone and still be murdered in cold blood. Agree to more stop and search. I don’t want dangerous people like this on our streets, destroying the lives of innocent people and their families. I wish that carrying a knife resulted in a mandatory custodial sentence.

I hope that they get very, very long prison sentences (I would actually like a whole life tariff for them but I’m sure that won’t happen).

Heartbreaking. That young man had his whole life ahead of him.

Terrible judgement? This is an absolutely horrific crime. It goes way beyond terrible judgement.

That poor, poor young man and his family. And the people who helped and have been involved in solving this crime and will be affected forever by this. Something had gone so very wrong that anyone, let alone 12 year olds, have access to this sort of weapon. I don't know what the answer is but something needs to be done to change attitudes to carrying knives and such like.

Surely a 12yo knows killing someone with a machete is wrong, and hitting someone with a machete is going to cause serious harm if not death.

Surely the terrible judgment is more along taking a risk, like playing chicken on a road or playing on train track, not killing someone

I have a 12 year old. Something has gone very very wrong in these children's lives if stabbing a man to death is seen as bad judgment

It's mad, isn't it? And three 15 years olds have been charged with attempted murder in Sunderland, after another boy was stabbed numerous times.

I'm horrified by it, but the commenter is kind of right. In some countries they wouldn't even be put on trial because they'd be too young.